Juggernaut or The Hulk?

exactly, negating an enchantment is not beyond him

Being able to grip an energy bubble is more of an ability.

On the website Electric Ferret (which is done by votes, and I had nothing to do with this), Hulk vs. Juggernaut vs. Doomsday, and Hulk and Doomsday completely wipe Juggernaut off the map.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Being able to grip an energy bubble is more of an ability.

It's said to be a feat of strength, though you may be right. Hulk often deflects energy blasts with his hands.

By the "can Hulk grab a beam of light" question, I meant:

Hulk, no matter how strong, can't do certain things, such as bending light with his bare hands. Why? Because strength would have no effect.

The same goes with magical energy, all the strength in the world can't disrupt magical energy. It's beyond physical. You can't punch a magic aura, you can't punch a telepathic assault.

I know things Hulk has done, he's done impossible things.....but they always have a reason WHY he was able to do it.
Just because he's done impossible things in the past doesn't mean he can do anything that is impossible in the future.

From all points of reference, Hulk is not capable of effecting Jug in any way, the same can't be said for Hulk. This is why it isn't a perfect draw, Jug could possibly win, Hulk can not(unless it's a ring out or some other jobber way).

messing with matter anti matter is quite impossible yet hulk did it, hulk does things like that, he gets so strong that he achieves what he has to. just cos he doesnt do that in every fight, if he did no other character would be able to stand against him in a brawl, inclusing thor, juggie namour etc. the only reason there is any question on this thread is because hhulk has been depowered so often to fight against these guys and not win that u guys misunderstand his charactaer

light is energy , wave is pure energy without matter, so hulk can not logically bend it.

logicaly a guy wont turn green and pu on 800 pounds of muscle, or become enchanted with a mystic ruby for goodness sake

ive been gone for a while and this still is being debated? this fight is a 50/50 draw

juggy wins......

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
light is energy , wave is pure energy without matter, so hulk can not logically bend it.

what r u saying here? Im not sure from the grammatical errors. But light does have both mass and momentum btw.

Originally posted by Wynndar
what r u saying here? Im not sure from the grammatical errors. But light does have both mass and momentum btw.

Half right pretty sure light has momentum but not mass.

Light is energy, has no mass, it's a wave, no particles therefore, no matter, therefore no mass.

yea an individual photon has mass...its very slight...thats why light is trapped by black holes...and why the solar sail satelite that had a launch malfunction last week was propelled by being hit by light.

It doesn't have momentum, momentum=mass times velocity, it is a wave of energy, it cannot be grabbed, only reflected, a bend is rarefraction, a totally different process, by means of reflection of water.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
It doesn't have momentum, momentum=mass times velocity, it is a wave of energy, it cannot be grabbed, only reflected, a bend is rarefraction, a totally different process, by means of reflection of water.

Light is effected by gravity. A photon must have mass. It's a particle.

actually when a light is localized in one spot it behaves as a particle...but when its unlocalized and moving it behaves as a wave....its called wave/particle duality......and when it behaves as a particle it does have a mass

Density is why light is captured............

Like sound is muffled or captured, but to a greater extent, sound is pure energy, but a wave as well, and cannot be physically bent, only bounced from surface to surface.

This is a paradox, wave has no matter but has been proved to so it actually works both ways.

Light I'm pretty sure is massless, but can exert pressure on matter. What you're refering to is relative mass determined by it's wavelength since energy and matter are interchangeable. This determines it's momentum and things with momentum are affected by gravity.