Juggernaut or The Hulk?

hulk is shown in comics ( your inconsistance source of evidence) thrown arouun by enraged hulks or punched to the ground. shows hulk as the daddy. ( except as a lumberjack meant to highlight hulks confusion). i prefer to analyse characteristics and histories of characters to get more reliable evidence. yahman, your sister needs to get on here then cos your put downs are , well very nice. juggie is also shown below hulk in marvel trump cards too. also as a character is more associated with durability, which is jst waiting for hulk to overpower

Originally posted by TOUGHUS GUYSUS
hulk is shown in comics ( your inconsistance source of evidence) thrown arouun by enraged hulks or punched to the ground. shows hulk as the daddy. ( except as a lumberjack meant to highlight hulks confusion). i prefer to analyse characteristics and histories of characters to get more reliable evidence. yahman, your sister needs to get on here then cos your put downs are , well very nice. juggie is also shown below hulk in marvel trump cards too. also as a character is more associated with durability, which is jst waiting for hulk to overpower

How many times have you changed you name ?

Juggernaut...Hulk...Juggs...Greenie...

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I hear this debate in my dreams now...!

well at last reason seems to have won the day. character wise hulk is the supreme powerhouse when written on top form.

juggernaut wins

here's how...

after arduously searching for bruce banner on the internet, i befriend him and gain his trust. After gaining his confidence i meet him several times in a local bar at which we discuss baseball, gamma mutation and interracial pornography. One night i slip the unsuspecting Banner an INCREDIBLE amount of ecstacy, or any suitable narcotic. Only a few minutes later the usually intelligent Banner is groping my crotch and drooling in the general direction of my genitals. I drive the intoxicated Banner to a secluded location where i've pre-arranged a meeting with the infamous UNSTOPPABLE Juggernaut. I ask Juggernaut to remove his helmet, which reveals his fashionable skull-cap. I ask him to remove that too. The respectably INTELLIGENT Juggernaut willing heads my commands. Suddenly (and without warning) i produce a large plasma rifle and fire it point blank at Juggernauts face/head. After sharing a good laugh, the unscathed, god of rage accidentally steps into a smelly pile of goo which was once Banner's head. Banner/Hulk is dead.

In a fist fight Juggernaut wins

Helmet only protects from mental attacks
Juggernaut cannot be killed
Once in motion, the Juggernaut cannot be stopped
Not matter how far the Hulk throws Juggernaut, he will come back, and he will, just like the denotation of his moniker defines, trample the Hulk

I'm not saying the Juggernaut is the ultimate being...just that the Hulk can't beat him. I don't care what's happened in the past, the Juggernaut has only been beat down and victimized by the writers' underrating. I don't make the rules...they do, so I wonder why can't they stick by them?

i thought you were gonna say something like a super horny jugs sinks his cyttorak enchanced manhood in banners you know where, and the hulk emerges with a really befuddled look on his face

Originally posted by manjaro
i thought you were gonna say something like a super horny jugs sinks his cyttorak enchanced manhood in banners you know where, and the hulk emerges with a really befuddled look on his face

* and who says, "the cytorrak gem's power is limitless"??!! that's stupid, if that's the case, no one can beat that blockhead Juggernaut.

* the Hulk wins because Hulk smash... as simple as that...

Originally posted by olympian
""was never"?! "on a level against Juggernaut?!"

Never on a level where he was " much stronger ". Yes, whats the beef?

Im talking about regular levels btw.

"as i recall, the Hulk has a very consistent 7-strength level, (only the gray Hulk got 6, but the green one is always 7)"

Ah i see. Your a handbook guy.

"while Juggy, on the other hand, was only on the 6-strength back then. he was only "re-powered" the second time he got the gem & made him much stronger, currently he's also on 7-strength level like Hulk."

The handbooks/listing guide are wrong in that then. He was stronger "back then" when he could smack Thor back and forth and where Hulk never trashed him. Nowadays he doesnt have that level.

That is why i go by the comics, not innacurate hanbooks.

* as if the comics are more consistent than handbooks or cards...

Originally posted by TOUGHUS GUYSUS
well at last reason seems to have won the day. character wise hulk is the supreme powerhouse when written on top form.

Originally posted by peejayd
* and who says, "the cytorrak gem's power is limitless"??!! that's stupid, if that's the case, no one can beat that blockhead Juggernaut.

* the Hulk wins because Hulk smash... as simple as that...

No more stupid as infinite strength for the hulk 🙄

hmmm, hulk is the top tier powerhuse with no limit to his potential.this simple fact gives him the ability potentially to ovecome juggie

Originally posted by johnv89
No more stupid as infinite strength for the hulk 🙄

* and you can tell it to the marines... hulk would smash juggernaut and throw him to orbit where he and his fans like you belong...

"He did 3 tours in 'Nam...... I was in Corpus Christi on business a month ago. I had this eight foot tall Asian waiter, which made me curious. I asked him his name. Sure enough it's Ho Tran Brasky!"

Originally posted by peejayd
throw him to orbit where he and his fans like you belong...

It's been proven Jug can gain limitless amounts of power from Cyttorak Cosmos, the same as Hulk. The difference? Jug doesn't need anything like "rage" to gain it.

Why? Because it'd be stupid to give someone limitless power, then give them a limited way to gain it i.e Rage.

Originally posted by long pig
It's been proven Jug can gain limitless amounts of power from Cyttorak Cosmos, the same as Hulk. The difference? Jug doesn't need anything like "rage" to gain it.

Why? Because it'd be stupid to give someone limitless power, then give them a limited way to gain it i.e Rage.

As for Jugs getting instant access to limitless power its pretty much bull

If your theory was correct then no one would be able to kick around jugs (Ever-------- talking about Odin or below)

Even if he can get the power required there must be some sort of procedure.

Even with the power gem, a being must tap into to get unlimited power.

Just think would be Odin level in physical power.

Originally posted by kgkg
It’s been proven when this was?

As for Jugs getting instant access to limitless power its pretty much bull

If your theory was correct then no one would be able to kick around jugs (Ever-------- talking about Odin or below)

Even if he can get the power required there must be some sort of procedure.

Even with the power gem, a being must tap into to get unlimited power.

Just think would be Odin level in physical power.

* Hulk still wins here...

juggie has had more power at times i grant you that. however hulk is well renowned for his limitless strength and RAGE. also a durability that increases with his strength. as juggie is not as established a character as hulk, ( who is written just as inconsistantly) it has to go to hulk until juggies characteristics are as solid. power beams pah, forcefield??????????? hes supposesadly on a very high level of endurabce. oh and characters characteristics and trump cards, encyclopedias are of more value than comics as theyre the rules the writers use