Juggernaut or The Hulk?

Originally posted by long pig
He didn't whoop Onslaught's ass, at all. Hulk, with help from jean grey, managed to break the armor. Which is what Onslaught wanted him to do, then OS became more powerful.

Hulk COULD eat himself, but he'd never have a chance because Jug is steadily kicking his face in.

Hulk's speed advantage is how fast he can run, not how fast his reaction speed and fighting speed. So, no, Hulk wouldn't use his non-existant speed advantage.

Actually, there's no reason why Jug can't run as fast as Hulk.

Could Hulk throw Jug to outerspace? Sure, but Jug can do the same to him. Since neither are much faster or stronger than the other, it's doubtful it will happen.

What is this based on? Hulk's speed has been consistently rated at Superhuman. Thats how Hulk over came Jack of hearts...or how about when he thrashed Wonderman, Ironman, and Namor all at once and so fast that they couldnt even see him. The Hulk is one of the fastest people on Marvel Earth.

Originally posted by Wynndar
What is this based on? Hulk's speed has been consistently rated at Superhuman. Thats how Hulk over came Jack of hearts...or how about when he thrashed Wonderman, Ironman, and Namor all at once and so fast that they couldnt even see him. The Hulk is one of the fastest people on Marvel Earth.

* so there is a possibility that Hulk can win due to speed advantage over Juggernaut - Hulk can use his speed, lift Juggernaut and throw him out in space before Juggernaut can ever retaliate...

...And why can't Juggernaut move just as fast?

All you're saying is that Hulk can move fast. I know this, and I'm not denying it. But why can't Juggy, who's just as powerful, move just as fast? They just never show it in the comics, but there's no reason why Juggy can't super-leap or run super fast or even have superhuman reflexes.

I feel the same way about Colossus and Thing as well. Being as super strong as they are, they should be just as able to super-leap and run super fast.

* you got a point there... makes me imagine JUGGERNAUT HEADCRUSH versus HULK GAMMA CHARGE, heheheh... and no power-ups for Hulk, Juggy gets constant Cytorrak power-up...

* so in any battle, Hulk loses this one, may be it strength, speed or durability... poor Hulk, i hope he never cross path with Juggy ever...

Originally posted by Wynndar
What is this based on? Hulk's speed has been consistently rated at Superhuman. Thats how Hulk over came Jack of hearts...or how about when he thrashed Wonderman, Ironman, and Namor all at once and so fast that they couldnt even see him. The Hulk is one of the fastest people on Marvel Earth.

WM, Quicksilver, Northstar...🙁

Even if he's top ten doesnt that count as something.

Jugs can leap but nothing like Hulk who has leaped into space.

Thing and Colossus r not as strong as Hulk and thus cant leap like him either. I havent seen Colossus leap really, but Thing has jump half way up Four Freedoms tower...he intentionally emulated the Hulk while in the Negative Zone since gravity works different there.

Oh...another example...Nefaria is easily as strong as an angry Hulk...he leaps in the same fashion.

Originally posted by Wynndar
WM, Quicksilver, Northstar...🙁

Even if he's top ten doesnt that count as something.

Jugs can leap but nothing like Hulk who has leaped into space.

Thing and Colossus r not as strong as Hulk and thus cant leap like him either. I havent seen Colossus leap really, but Thing has jump half way up Four Freedoms tower...he intentionally emulated the Hulk while in the Negative Zone since gravity works different there.

ORganic rock is a Thing myth.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
...And why can't Juggernaut move just as fast?

All you're saying is that Hulk can move fast. I know this, and I'm not denying it. But why can't Juggy, who's just as powerful, move just as fast? They just never show it in the comics, but there's no reason why Juggy can't super-leap or run super fast or even have superhuman reflexes.

I feel the same way about Colossus and Thing as well. Being as super strong as they are, they should be just as able to super-leap and run super fast.

Originally posted by The MISTER
True.

Thank you. I'm glad someone else understands what I'm saying.

I know it hasn't happened yet, but there's absolutely no reason as to why it shouldn't.

Hulk in his VERY early days was able to do it. I mean like right when he would turn into Hulk, using his base strength would be able to make those kinds of leaps and achieve those speeds. So Colossus, Thing, and Juggernaut can EASILY do the same.

They just don't.

not necassarily as hulk is the only hero who can enhance his strength hugely in a nanosecond from being angry

Originally posted by TOUGHUS GUYSUS
not necassarily as hulk is the only hero who can enhance his strength hugely in a nanosecond from being angry

Jug is equal in strength/speed and superior in Durability and skill.

What's that mean? Hulk gets curbstomped.

juggie is not equal in strength or speed and durability, once hulk is mad its negligable hulk all the way. hed be passed his onslaught level of power

Current Jugg loses horribly. If its classic Jugg then i believe he would win.

Jug is stronger than Hulk.

er no hulk can get as strong as he needs to to do the job

Juggernaut is stronger, though. Much stronger.

hulk is strongest . and some more

Originally posted by long pig
Juggernaut is stronger, though. Much stronger.

On what grounds? 😕

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