Juggernaut or The Hulk?

Started by long pig486 pages

Neither Jug or Hulk has a limit on their strength. Jug could knock Hulk miles just as easily as Hulk could do to him.

Jug DOES have leaping ability.

Originally posted by long pig
Neither Jug or Hulk has a limit on their strength. Jug could knock Hulk miles just as easily as Hulk could do to him.

Jug DOES have leaping ability.

Jug does have a limit on his strength, it has never been shown to be infinite. His so-called infinite power is his durability. Jug's leaping ability is laughable.

Originally posted by scotsmn
Jug does have a limit on his strength

Probably. But his limit is WAY ABOVE a "normal" class 100 character (whatever normal may be lol).

classic Juggernaurt and Hulk have the same base strength.

Originally posted by HigH ScholaR
classic Juggernaurt and Hulk have the same base strength.

I really doubt it. People underestimate the strength of Juggernaut. He is well above CL 100.

Originally posted by scotsmn
Jug does have a limit on his strength, it has never been shown to be infinite. His so-called infinite power is his durability. Jug's leaping ability is laughable.

You realize you can't "show" infinite, right? It's said his strength is unknown or impossible to measure.

No limit has been shown as of yet.

Jug's leaping is fine.

Originally posted by who?-kid
Juggernauts strength is way beyond Hulks base strength. Only when Hulk is very pissed off, he (probably) becomes stronger.

Seriously? Is there a respect thread, or maybe you have some scans of this? Not that I doubt you...well, I guess I do a little bit. I was of the opinion that Hulk was a bit stronger, but not as tough. But Juggernauts awesome...he's even got a better name. I'd love to see some evidence of Juggernaut out-hulking the Hulk. 😄

And, BTW and slightly off topic...where are you people getting this "Class 100" strength thing from? It sound suspiciously like the old Marvel Superhero system. If this is the case...then that's just weird.

Originally posted by Melnorme
Seriously? Is there a respect thread, or maybe you have some scans of this? Not that I doubt you...well, I guess I do a little bit. I was of the opinion that Hulk was a bit stronger, but not as tough. But Juggernauts awesome...he's even got a better name. I'd love to see some evidence of Juggernaut out-hulking the Hulk. 😄

Jug backhanded Thor like a half mile or something, once. And he never really -tried- to go all out.
When Jug DID go all out, he was said to be 100 times stronger than before....well, that's what the writer said.

Originally posted by Melnorme
And, BTW and slightly off topic...where are you people getting this "Class 100" strength thing from? It sound suspiciously like the old Marvel Superhero system. If this is the case...then that's just weird.

Yeah, it's the old marvel class system.

100ton means from 100tons to infinity.

Originally posted by long pig

Yeah, it's the old marvel class system.

100ton means from 100tons to infinity.

Wouldn't that be Shift X, Y, Z and a bunch of other really lame titles for levels of power?

Originally posted by Melnorme
Wouldn't that be Shift X, Y, Z and a bunch of other really lame titles for levels of power?

Oh, no. That's the RPG thing.

Originally posted by long pig
Jug backhanded Thor like a half mile or something, once. And he never really -tried- to go all out.
When Jug DID go all out, he was said to be 100 times stronger than before....well, that's what the writer said.

Yeah, it's the old marvel class system.

100ton means from 100tons to infinity.


yeah but juggs cant lift over 100,000tons, and the hulk takes way too long to get there.

Originally posted by King KAM
yeah but juggs cant lift over 100,000tons, and the hulk takes way too long to get there.

That's a very good point. But, I can name a few times Hulk didn't take long to reach a high level.

And I think Jug is stronger than that number you gave.

Originally posted by long pig
That's a very good point. But, I can name a few times Hulk didn't take long to reach a high level.

And I think Jug is stronger than that number you gave.


i dont know, he may be sluightly, but not too much over, 100,000tons mreans he would dominate hulk everytime, and just about everyone on earth with ease.

His strength is always variable. Usually he's just as strong as he needs to be for the story.

Originally posted by Lord Magnus
Side thought: Juggernaut with adamantium armor would be awesome. If you gave him an updated silver costume (nothing against the Cytorrak armor, but he'd be doubly indestructible!

The armor classic Juggernaut wore was just as durable as himself and as flexable as cloth. Much better than adamantium armor.

Originally posted by Melnorme
And, BTW and slightly off topic...where are you people getting this "Class 100" strength thing from? It sound suspiciously like the old Marvel Superhero system. If this is the case...then that's just weird.

The class system isn't the best thing around, but it's all we've got.

And yes, classic Juggernaut is definitely stronger than a normal Hulk. I don't know how much of course, but he IS stronger. Hulk needs to get real angry to come close to Juggernauts' strength. Of course when he is very very pissed, he's a lot stronger than Juggernaut, true.

I think Peter David himself said that Juggernaut was stronger.

Wrong Wrong Wrong. You guys are overestimating Jugs strength big time. If he was that strong to start off with he'd kill everyone in one hit. Juggernaut was stopped in his tracks by War Hulk. His strength was proven at that moment to have a limit. Period. Hulk has one-shotted a meteor LARGER than earth! Hulk is much stronger with rage.

Anyone have ANY scans of Juggernaut leaping as transportation? I hear some claims but see no evidence.

Are you saying it can't be done? 'Cause really, anyone with super strength can leap for transportation. Hell, Spiderman does it all the time.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Are you saying it can't be done? 'Cause really, anyone with super strength can leap for transportation. Hell, Spiderman does it all the time.

Until I see it done....

I have NEVER seen Juggernaut do this. It's fair to assume he would try to run/walk back to Hulk after getting knocked miles away.

the 10 cass characters can lift/press more then just 100 tons but hulk and juggy are around on the same base strngth i say that's juggs whole unmovable or unstopable force thing that gives him an edge and makes it seem that he is stronger in any they are the same base strength but stamina and durablity is a whole nother matter.