Juggernaut or The Hulk?

Started by bigbran486 pages

[quickquote=6994225](auto quote)He can't. He CAN however, stalemate Juggernaut.[/quickquote]
[quickquote=6994235](auto quote)so this thread is a tie?
you guys are basically saying theyll tie everytime?111
you hulksters are seriously underestimatinh juggs.
your saying that juggs cant even beat him once?
thats what im getting. so maybe you should stop saying that they will tie.
either hulk loses, or this thread is made up of fantoys.
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there answer me that.

stupid thing isnt working!!!

Originally posted by bigbran
why is it that all the hulksters, always bring up his limitless strength, and that he supported a mountain?

Because you keep denying what is blatantly clear. Hell, lately you guys don't even seem to deny it anymore, you just ignore it altogether. Start debating by the facts, and we won't have to bring it up anymore. You shouldn't let yourselves be blinded by Hulk hatred. And calling other people fanboys who don't even act like fanboys sounds a tad bit fannish.

how the hell can they stalemate?
so juggs wont even beat him once11111
thast pretty fantoyish of you hulksters.
you are seriously undersetimateing juggs!!!

Originally posted by Apolloknight
8th day Juggernaut=Juggernaut he was just focused. His god didn't give him more power, he just called upon him to fulfill his duty, which what was driving Juggernaut when he became more focused. Why is this so Hard to believe?.

Because no one has convinced me this is true that he just focuses and summons more power. Whenever I asked about where it was stated he was focused, the best answer I received was, "Ask Marvel."

He even said himself that something was making him stronger...

Not that it matters. Cain drawing more power from Cyttorak would count as outside help. It'd be like Surfer drawing more power from Galactus in a fight against Superman or something.

Originally posted by bigbran
how the hell can they stalemate?
so juggs wont even beat him once11111
thast pretty fantoyish of you hulksters.
you are seriously undersetimateing juggs!!!

I already said it was possible, just not likely. Some of the posts I'm seeing state that, "Juggernaut knocked out Thing with three blows, so of course he'll knock out Hulk."

If anything, I think Hulk's durability is being underrated here.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Because you keep denying what is blatantly clear. Hell, lately you guys don't even seem to deny it anymore, you just ignore it altogether. Start debating by the facts, and we won't have to bring it up anymore. You shouldn't let yourselves be blinded by Hulk hatred. And calling other people fanboys who don't even act like fanboys sounds a tad bit fannish.
i like hulk, but im responding to you.
i do like hulk, i can say that. but when the mountain feat gets brought up in every debate, its sad.
i tried to answer the mountain thing before, and all i got was:
supporting a mountain is better than lifting one.
if you dont believe me, i can show you.
everytime i bring up something about hulk, someone tries to prove me wrong and bring up a bunch of bullshit, so i say why even bother?

Originally posted by bigbran
i like hulk, but im responding to you.
i do like hulk, i can say that. but when the mountain feat gets brought up in every debate, its sad.
i tried to answer the mountain thing before, and all i got was:
supporting a mountain is better than lifting one.
if you dont believe me, i can show you.
everytime i bring up something about hulk, someone tries to prove me wrong and bring up a bunch of bullshit, so i say why even bother?

I didn't bring it up. Anyway, why don't you just stop posting factually incorrect stuff about Hulk? It should make forum life a lot easier, since we wouldn't have to "bullshit" you anymore.

Originally posted by Accel
I already said it was possible, just not likely. Some of the posts I'm seeing state that, "Juggernaut knocked out Thing with three blows, so of course he'll knock out Hulk."

If anything, I think Hulk's durability is being underrated here.

no its not possible, because hulk isnt invincible. hes been koed by less than juggs before, and now juggs isnt even able to ko him, thats even worse than something a superdude fantoy would say.
yes hulk has duribility, but juggs not even being able to beat him once sounds retarded.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
I didn't bring it up. Anyway, why don't you just stop posting factually incorrect stuff about Hulk? It should make forum life a lot easier, since we wouldn't have to "bullshit" you anymore.
what about saying lifting a mountain is better than supporting it.
ok i see the light. hulk can shoot gamma outta his hands, and he can run lightspeed.

Originally posted by bigbran
no its not possible, because hulk isnt invincible. hes been koed by less than juggs before, and now juggs isnt even able to ko him, thats even worse than something a superdude fantoy would say.
yes hulk has duribility, but juggs not even being able to beat him once sounds retarded.

Dear God, does no one read posts any more or do they just see what they want to see?

Originally posted by Accel
I already said it was possible, just not likely. Some of the posts I'm seeing state that, "Juggernaut knocked out Thing with three blows, so of course he'll knock out Hulk."

If anything, I think Hulk's durability is being underrated here.

I realize that, and I respect your thought, I agree with you that a fully enraged Hulk would be near impossible, but an normal Hulk at the start of battle, to a moderately enraged Hulk has been KO'ed before, you guys provide no evidence that Juggernaut could not do this.

See what i mean?

Originally posted by bigbran
no its not possible, because hulk isnt invincible. hes been koed by less than juggs before, and now juggs isnt even able to ko him, thats even worse than something a superdude fantoy would say.
yes hulk has duribility, but juggs not even being able to beat him once sounds retarded.

Maybe, just maybe there's a chance that Hulk has lost to enemies he shoudn't have? A friggin' snake beat the Hulk, fCS! Remember that the Hulk is used as a device to show how powerful some enemies are.

Originally posted by Accel
Dear God, does no one read posts any more or do they just see what they want to see?
what im responding to them actully having a chance to stalemate.
i was saaying that hulk has good duribilty, and juggs even being able to win once would cause him a win.
but your saying its possible for them to tie 10 times, thats not ven a chance.
did i say hulk was going down 10 times, no!!! did i say juggs was going to curbstomp him, no!!!
i was saying juggs will most definately get 1 win!!!

Originally posted by bigbran
what about saying lifting a mountain is better than supporting it.
ok i see the light. hulk can shoot gamma outta his hands, and he can run lightspeed.

Stop being a dick. Stop pretending that every Hulk-fan/defender is a fanboy. It doesn't make for a very mature debate.

Either way, I'm just trying to be objective here. Lifting is better than supporting. But you also have take the differences between Hulk incarnations into account. With such an exstensive and expansive history it would be idiocy to just treat every Hulk as the same.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Maybe, just maybe there's a chance that Hulk has lost to enemies he shoudn't have? A friggin' snake beat the Hulk, fCS! Remember that the Hulk is used as a device to show how powerful some enemies are.
no thats galactus.
well i guess hulk is too sometimes....

Question: How do we know that Cytorrak has infinite power. An extreme amount of power, sure, but infinite?

Also Juggernaut is supposed to be invincible, but perhaps that is only, because no force has been great enough to destroy him. If that is the case than Hulk could become sufficiently enraged to take him down. Even in comics nothing is completely impenetrable...even Juggy's force-field.

Juggernaut was beaten by Onslaught...was he depowered slightly at the time, because if he was not than I'd say Hulk definitely has more of a chance than we're giving him here.

Juggernaut could defeat a calm Hulk...but the hulk is rarely calm. Sure it could happen...and has before...but it is unlikely.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
I realize that, and I respect your thought, I agree with you that a fully enraged Hulk would be near impossible, but an normal Hulk at the start of battle, to a moderately enraged Hulk has been KO'ed before, you guys provide no evidence that Juggernaut could not do this.

See what i mean?


Even from the beginning, Hulk can take Cl100 punches, as he's done so before as well. Naturally, he'll get angrier from there.

As for evidence, it's hard to prove a negative, but in their first fight, Juggernaut couldn't knock out a moderately enraged Hulk then either.

Originally posted by bigbran
what im responding to them actully having a chance to stalemate.
i was saaying that hulk has good duribilty, and juggs even being able to win once would cause him a win.
but your saying its possible for them to tie 10 times, thats not ven a chance.
did i say hulk was going down 10 times, no!!! did i say juggs was going to curbstomp him, no!!!
i was saying juggs will most definately get 1 win!!!

I said it was possible. Do you even know what that means? It means that yes, I do believe that Cain can knock Hulk out, but odds are much more likely that they will stalemate.

Originally posted by bigbran
no thats galactus.
well i guess hulk is too sometimes....

Yeah, him too. But Hulk is the device of strength. Want to leave an unerasable impression? Beat the Hulk senseless. If that means ignoring the characters nuances, so be it. Or at least that seems to be the case, sometimes. Not always, though.

Hulk and Juggernaut used to fight all the time, and I know that one time Juggs did knock him out once, he caughtn him off guard but still, he did it, I have a comic where Doc Samson knocks him out, DOC SAMSON!, If he can do it Juggs can definately do it, but they do stalemate most of the time, Hulk could win, but juggernaut is more likely to beat him, and its more likely for them to stalemate.

This is what I think:
Stalemate 7/10
Hulk 1/10
Juggernaut 2/10