Vader's body

Wait, so I'm confused. Vaders body disappeard when Luke put him in the shuttle, and when they got back to the planet, they decided to burn his cape just for the hell of it? What, that makes no sense, wouldn't they just throw away his suit like some trash? I mean, if his organic body disappeard, there would be no point in burning his suit! Face it, Lucas didn't think this through! 😕

Well what if Luke did it as a gesture towards his father or as a jedi. Like the way they burnt Qui-Gon in TPM.

They only burned Qui-Gon because he didn't disappear. I'm sure if he did, they wouldn't burn his chlothes.

Burning Vader's suit was symbolic.

Do you have to disappear to be seen in a spirit body? Could Qui-Gon be seen in Epi. 3?

I believe you do; I believe it is self-evident and I believe that it is stretching credibility if the disappearing trick and the ghost trick are BOTH things that Obi-Wan and Yoda work out later in the story (as Darth Vader clearly knows of the existence of NEITHER in ANH; hence the Strike me down line etc.).

Thgere is some debate here, though. If Qui-Gon turns up as a ghost I am almost certainly wrong.

if vader doesn't know of the ghost trick and the dissapeaering trick, then how does he manage to transform himself into a ghost at the end of the film, he saw ob1 vanish but he couldn't have suddenly thought to himself, "right, when i die i think i'll vanish as well, just for the fun of it," in fact does he even dissapear, his face is still there when luke drags him onto the ship and is it not possible thathis body had sunk into the fire and so that all that remained visible at that point was his mask. the gap between him dying and the gap between him appearing could only have been about a day or so anyway so why can't qui gon, in ten years have managed to learn that? i'm still convinced it has something to do with unfinished business and that when that business is finished you don't appear anymore.

either way, burning vader wasn't very good for the environment now was it.

How Anakin managed to vanish is somewhat of a mystery.

But Vader did NOT know of either trick, that was the whole point of that scene with Obi-Wan.

If it was just down to fulfilling desitnies it would have happened before, which it hasn't.

how do you know, perhaps all of the jedi have suceeded in fulfilling their destines and so there was no need for them to come back as a ghost, i will admit though that this topic is hard because apart from anakin we don't know any of the jedi's destiny, vader was wrong about lukes so we don't know his either.

We don't KNOW if Vader disappears. We don't SEE it happening.

The clothes burning can be to say: we destroyed all that is left of Vader, only the good memories stay

I still think it is self-evident that Anakin's Ghost appearance PROVES he disappeared! And most of Lucasfilm is on my side!

I agree, but what Lucasfilm thinks doesn't mather: they are just guys that work on a terrific movie, but it must be clearly in the movie; it is nice that it is said by them (even McCallum) but it must be IN the movie

Yes, I know that (though I think the ghost appearance is direct film proof), but you have to admit the case for saying he disappeared is looking very strong.

Yeah, he disappeared, it's a shame Jar Jar doesn't! 🙄

We can allways shoot him 😈 😈 😈
What? Ush agrees again??? What have you been drinking???

Yeah he's probably been drinking, and god only know what else 😉 😮‍💨

Maybe the burning allows them to move into oneness with the Force if they don't vanish on their own. That would also give a reason for the burning of QGJ?

Than ob1 doesn't need to be sad, because he will see his master back

Well, he wasn't weeping and throwing his arms in the air was he?