Star wars morality

If the dress thing has a "second "agenda, maybe the black dress Luke wears is to show that there is a thin line between the light and the dark side of the force.

It is not about Stormtroopers it is about killing something resambeling humans, that you can so be turned to the Dark Side, sorry for the long time I didn't respond; I have problems with internet, sorry Ush, I will discuss this till the end of my days, and I will life longer 😈 😈 😈 😈

Hey, no worries.

I still think that so long as you know that the Battle Droids aren't alive then destroying them will not affect your attitude towards harming humans in any way. I reckon you could destroy 5000 droids in an orgy of robotic violence and still find harming a living human (or alien, or even sentient droid) a disgusting prospect.

I still not agree 😈 😈 😈
You have killed a lot of battledroids; they walk,speak,think (YES THEY DO), they do stuff like everybody else.
SO; killing them would make you more able to acces the Dark Side; because you are now closer to killing a person because he does the same things as a battledroid

PS: I just wanted to say: I think that Bush made an error with giving away funds; it is ok for that if it is for deseases and stuff; but you will know that the money will go (illegaly) to cloning humans, wich is in my opinion WAY wrong, we aren't ready for such knowledge!!

I don't life in the US and I don't inted to; feel free to replay to this post scriptum but remember like ratcat always says: STAY ON TOPIC

Battle Droids do not think any more than your PC does! They are just executing a programme! We could build an (expensive) robot today that could do virtually all of the things a Battle Droid does. It would not even be remotely alive!

It doesn't matter how much they mimic humans. So long as you know what is and isn't alive it should not affect your attitude at all.

You are cruel!

We also execute a program but a more complicated one; it wont effect your attitude but your attitude is not the same as your thoughts; you only know when it is too late that you are influenced by the Dark Side

The brain is no programme; it is fundamentally different.

They do the same thing
btw: nice example is Ki-Adi-Mundi's binary brain

But we don;t know what they MEAN by binary brain. He is clearly not like a computer because he is not stuck in yes or no programmed responses.

I think it means his brain is ore in keeping with a SENTIENT droid's brain, like C3-P0's.

We do also do the yes/no thing: will I wake up now? yes/no
Would I eat bread with cheese for breakfast? yes/no
and so on

We have the alternative of maybe.

That is no choice that is just running away from it

maybe I`ll watch ANH or maybe I will watch TPM or perhaps I choose ROTJ. More than a yes or no choise there. 😄

The fact remains that computer programming and execution is not remotely like human thought. The Battle Droids are simply computer guided.

You can argue all day without success as to whether C3-P0 is really alive or not, but he is clearly a far more sophisticated being, and his brain may well be of such a complexity to merit 'life', in which case it won;t be simply executing programmed instructions.

KAM's brain, therefore, is probably droid-like, but in any case he fulfils all requirements for sentients, unlike the battle droids.

Finti: actually you go like this:
Am I going to watch TPM? No
ANH? No
TESB maybe? No
ROTJ Yes

Ush: I told you before that droids and humans are NOT the same thing, the droids resamble humans; so the discussion is not about them having brains or that they are one big machine, it is about them resambling like humans, so that when Jedi kill them they would likely be more influenced when killing a person to attract them to the Dark Side!

PS: I'm glad you don't always agree with me U, the last time you agree so much that I'm beginning to think you are not the real Ushgarak anymore!

yerssot, go watch or read Bicenntenial Man and then say that again....

Sorry, we don't have that movie here in Belgium; so I can't reply to that, BUT I can say that there is a difference between that movie and Star Wars

Sorry, Yerssot, but you do keep seem to be going back to the premise that they are alive. Like I say, it does not matter how much they mimic humans. So long as you KNOW they are not sentient (which is really not that hard) then there is no problem, or associated problem, with destroying them. Like I say, you may as well say smashing toasters makes you more likely to kill humans. Just because Battle Droids have human-like qualities, it does not make any difference.

BTW, the fundamental points that humans can recognise possibilites other tahn just yes or no is one of the basics of professional AI, Yerssot. A computer can only recognise black and white; humans do shades of grey. So Finti''s use of thr word 'maye' is indeed appropriate.

But WE also thinks as yes/no; with only difference that IF there is a maybe we don't crash; I understand that the human brain is more complex than that of a droid; this has nothing to do with being more sentient, because they have both brains, binary or not

They aren't alive like us, but they are sort of alive: the only thing they need is electricity to live, we need air

you may as well say smashing toasters makes you more likely to kill humans

NO!! smashing battledroids, they make it more likely to be drawn to the dark side and kill than a human

You wouldnt have any problems destroying a fridge now would you Yerssot