I think you kiddos are in denial. This all seems to add up. Everyone's expecting some kind of genius story from the Wachowski's. They are not geniuses. They are like everyone else. They pieced together a story from a lot of other stuff. I think that the levels of depth people find in the story are their own illusions; you can find levels of depth and meaning in any story. Quite simply, you think the story is genius because you're TRYING TOO HARD.
I was not impressed with Reloaded, I didn't find it complex or hard to understand, no. I just thought nothing they said was genius.
That movie seems to explain nothing. I think this is because the Wachowskis themselves do not have an answer, or their answer is bullshit.
There are plenty of things left hanging. Nothing is explained. The only reason to see the movie is for action scenes.
I think everyone with their theories like "multiple levels to the Matrix" and "inhabitants of Zion are robots" will be surprised. I also think that the movie wasn't predictable in the sense that we're all searching for some greater, complex explanation to everything, and ended up with something brutally simple.
But what I think doesn't matter, eh? We'll all wait and see.
to bad there is no actual spoiler on that link. It is all only specualtion using the first two movies with a trailer of the third movie. There is no spoiler there. This guy sits around thinking up ways to improve the matrix story line, then he gives them to you as being an ending everyone expected, but then saying " NOPE of course it doesnt end that way"
so he tries to spoil the movie for you by convincing you that you expected the movie to end in the way that he hopes it will( which is so far fetched and off of the matrix storyline) Then saying no of course it doesnt end this way. Then he says it ends in the ACTUALL RATIONAL way the movies led the story up to with hints of a movie movie trailer there.
So basically he spoils the movie for you by giving you facts you already know and twisting them up, with his own possiblities. HE also states he wont give away entire movie because he doesnt want to ruin it for you, he is telling you right there that it is BULLSHIT
Originally posted by elliott_
I think you kiddos are in denial. This all seems to add up. Everyone's expecting some kind of genius story from the Wachowski's. They are not geniuses. They are like everyone else. They pieced together a story from a lot of other stuff. I think that the levels of depth people find in the story are their own illusions; you can find levels of depth and meaning in any story. Quite simply, you think the story is genius because you're TRYING TOO HARD.
elliott> or perhaps they are geniuses who have taken stories, myths, philosphies, etc from throughout history and combined them in a concatenation of unrivaled wisdom, beauty, and artistic expression...I believe the latter, because i have read interviews with the bros., and their thinking style is so grand...everything they choose is chosen because it has something to do with the message they are trying to express, everything, including the books on the shelves in the library (which, by the way, they have read all of, and they are not Tom Clancy and John Grishom, they are Baudrillard, Descartes and Plato) and the names of characters...besides, the depth is inherent in ever facet of the movie, not just placed randomly throughout a few scenes...ever number that is chosen, every name given (not just human but agents, and even buildings and cars) reveal a continuity that is not found in ANY other movie. We are not looking too hard; you have been trained to look on the surface of everything, and i'm not trying to make personal attacks or disregard your opinion, i'm telling you that, if you look deeper, you will see the rabbit hole continue further than you ever dreamed before...