Elvish writing

HI. I too was thinking of getting another tatoo in some elvish language but since then I have been very worried that I would translate it wrong or the artist would write it wrong. Once that happens you're pretty much messed. So I've changed my mind and am going for the horse head of Rohan; the one you see in the background of many documentaries and the extended edition of TTT and also on some of the downloadable desktops. That way it is a lot less likely to get messed up! Good luck.

Originally posted by ShireGirl
Where do you find out how to translate words into elvish. I've searched the net and came up with a few things, but nothing solid... 😐

It's sometimes quite difficult to translate single words because of their differring meanings, but there are some quite good sites - you find very good wordlists at ardalambion http://www.ardalambion.com/ fx quenya here http://www.uib.no/People/hnohf/qlist.htm but only quenya-english. After some minutes of searching you might also find the english-quenya-one for download 😉

Originally posted by Elessar12
I'm trying to find graphic (pictures) of the elvish language, in hopes to get a clear enough view to get a tattoo. I was hoping to maybe find the alphabet of elvish somewhere, so I can get initials tattooed on my back.

There are no single alphabets for Tengwar (and if there are, dont trust them 😉 )
What are your initials?

This all seems so complicated, I would love to learn the language , so that i could speak it but, oh gosh, it seem so hard

tell me abt it man...but i reealllyyy wanna learn *sob* maybe we cld get orli to do an international course on how to speak elvish 😱

Orli? OH NO.

Orli has NO idea about Sindarin. He may repeat some sentences David Salo tried to teach him to look better informed, but, no, wrong address there.
(and his pronounciation... ugh)

Liv might help a bit, but if you really want to know something correct, ask Salo - he translated all the "elvish" sentences for the film.

Hm, speak, would take ages to learn the vocabulary (probably several dozens of thousands of words) and the grammar, and, well, many words that would be important for us are missing.

If you want an easy and yet nice elvish language, try Isdira.

If you really want to learn Tolkien elvish 🙂 some practical phrases (mainly greetings)

Suilad (greeting);
Govannas (welcome, hello);
Mae govannem (Well met, Nice to see ya);
Navaer (Farewell, like Quenya Namárie);
Alae (something like Hello or just a word of positive surprise; like Quenya Aiya);
Cuio Mae (something similar to Navaer);
Na Adírad (See you or litterally "Until we meet again"😉;
Hannon Le (or "Meneg hennaid"😉 (Thank you or A thousand thanks);
Nin Aranno (Forgive me, Sorry);
Mist nín (Sorry, my mistake...);
Goell Carnen (or "Glassen"😉 (Answer to "thanks", like "you're welcome"😉;
Na 'ell nîn (My pleasure);
Ae (san) Le câr 'ell (please) :-)

wat kind of elvish is that though

qenya or sindarin

coz i started to learn quenya recently then saw that its like not the main one, is sindarin the main one, if someone says they can spea elvish wat kind do they mean

like wat kind is used in the movie

This is Sindarin, obviously, just look at the first word - suilad CAN'T be Quenya.

There is no real "main one", Sindarin was more often used as a maternal language or just speaking while Quenya was kinda more serious and used for science - like modern Latin.

If somebody says he speaks elvish (which few people can say without lying), he probably means Sindarin though Quenya is more common for spells or stuff like that.

In the movie, they used both, but for normal speech Sindarin (like Aragorn and Arwen, Arwen and Elrond etc), Quenya is for example used for Saruman's spell on Caradhras while Gandalf uses Sindarin to calm the mountain down - that shows the using and the character of both languages quite good, I think.

Tatto

I'm looking for the actual spelling for the words 'Angel' and 'Eagle' in Sindarin or any elvish language.
And by that I mean IN elvish, not english pronunciation or spelling.
Anyone know where I can find this???

HELP!!!

Originally posted by Exa
Orli? OH NO.

😂 hey i was kidding if i ever went to a class where the teacher is ORLI there's NO WAY i cld learn the subject anyway!!😆

omg this is soo cool damn it it's so hard to learn tho -and the pronunciation n phonetics...oh man....

"Sorry but you are only allowed to post links once you are more well known. This is to deter spammers. Thank you for understanding"
haha very funny - I would've posted some very useful links but hey...

> Exa: you forgot some lenition in your sentences, "meneg hennaid" should actually be hennaid venig and "cuio mae" ought to be cuio vae.

So much for the insufferable know-it-all *lol*

Suilaid vilui (means "friendly greetings"😉

omg ppl i wanna learn elvish but i dunno where to start!!!

I want to get something too - 'strength' I rather like the idea of....(as in mind, not body)

Originally posted by Issi
> Exa: you forgot some lenition in your sentences, "meneg hennaid" should actually be hennaid venig and "cuio mae" ought to be cuio vae.

Suilaid vilui (means "friendly greetings"😉

cuio mae is a writing mistake, youre right

why make the plural for "thousand"? isnt that already plural enough?
ps meneg hennaid isnt my own creation 😉 but comes from some mail answer from the admin of elvish.org 😉 😉
is it attested that numbers have to be used AFTER the nouns?

i would like to get hope in Quenya on my ankle but i already found the meaning i want the script...any help?

You mean Estel?
Strange, I wrote the same word for someone else some time ago 😄
If you want, I can send you a scan or something.

hey guys and gals, lostelinion son of erinion gilgalad at your service.
i recently got a elvish tattoo
it read, Learn from the past, Live the present, Build the future.
I translated it into elvish using a book on the language.
i'm trying to learn how to speak it but its pretty difficult.

Cool..... how did you translate the word "present"?

I know this is off subject but my friends and I wanna get a "P" on our arms so that we are branded as pirates.
I wouldn't mind elvish, how big are you willing to have your tattoo?

Originally posted by bLooMiLiCioUs
omg ppl i wanna learn elvish but i dunno where to start!!!

www.ardalambion.com it has great but hard elvish language courses.

I want a tattoo in elvish script meaning the word love. Ive found the word in elvish but I cant find any site to help me translate it into the actual script. Can anyone help me out here..Im so confused.