aggresion and Sidious

Started by yerssot6 pages

Tell me, where EXACTLY is the grease?? Do not say the helmet!

All over, but most clearly visible on the eyepieces when the Emperor is frying Luke.

I have never heard that either.
IF Vader is blind then HOW can he 'look' on Luke "With my own eyes"!?!

He would still be using the force IF he was blind. So I guess your saying that the force 'see's' things differently through a piece of armor? That is rediculous!

Vader had sight, Ani had sight. Period.

Are you next going to say that All the stormtroopers were blind because they had the same type eyepeaces? Or what about Boba Fett? Blind too?

I think most of us can see who the blind one is on this one. 😉

testify!!!
*begins to sing*

It's interesting but I've never heard anyone say that Vader couldn't see through the mask before. It's pretty obvious I think that he can see.

He's NOT literally blind; he just uses the Force to see because he does not trust his body. Vader is NOT a biology fan, as anyone can see!

Once he was Anakin again, he wanted to see Luke properly with his eyes, not just use the Force to see him!

Why doesn't he trust his eyes?

Obi-Wan taught him that his senses can decieve him, just as he tauight Luke. And Vader is NO fan of natural biology. Technology and the Force is his thing, not weak flesh.

Well, I think this makes perfect sense, but it looks like I am not going to get a whole lot of support for this one...

You know it Ush!!

What can be deceiving about you looking at your son?

How do you mean, Yerssot? My interpretation of that part of ROTJ is that Vader has been using the Force for all his sensing for a very long time, and actually wants to see what Luke LOOKS like before he dies.

Nothing 😄 😄
You can think what you will,
BUT: what is the evidence that he does that?

Yes, where is the evidence? I've never heard this theory before.

That line in ROTJ wasn't meant to be taken literally. Vader meant that he wanted to see Luke as Anakin rather than as Vader.

This would be a good question to ask the official site.

I think it was meant to be taken literally, but you are right, I can hardly prove it.

Hmm, I may well ask about this. Just to see.

I saw it as Vader wanted to take his "sunglasses" off to see luke without a tint obscuring the site.

We will all know in 4 years when the armor is donned once again, but for now, we will have to speculate.

This is hard to prove and everything is pointing against Ush theory, but that doesn't mean it is wrong. Maybe a visit @ sw.coms jedicouncil

Yes, please ask.

Already done KJ, your wish is my command (yeah right)

First, it's pretty obvious that the powers of the force increase with proximity. The closer, the better. And I'm pretty sure nobody can choke ppl across the galaxy. Or use any other kind of force tricks at such interstellar distances. However, I seem to recall having read something about the emperor's mind controll actually extending all over his empire. He guided all the lesser minds under his rule, and when he died, they were all suddenly released. I don't know how much this can be trusted though. I think maybe I read it in Timothy Zahn's Heir to the Empire trilogy.

Second, it has never occured to me that Vader cannot see with his mask on. If you can tell that the mask actually is opaque, just by looking at it, then I guess poor David Prowse must have had a really hard job, staggering blindly about the set. Those lightsaber battles can't have been easy. Logically, I guess it is *possible* that Vader couldn't see through the mask, but I don't see any reason for it. If he didn't want to trust his eyes, surely, he could just stop using them. He'd have enough self control for that, without having to resort to physically blocking his eyes. But to have the *possibility* to see, in case it becomes neccesary for some reason, can't be bad. Another thing is that he didn't neccesarily have to see through the visor directly, but maybe via a set of imbedded cameras.

It wasn't in Zahn's trilogy.
It's still eu, but it's good proof that Sidious is very powerfull and that he can do that so choking is another opion

I think I should point out that David Prowse DID have a very hard job, stumbling about etc; it was a nightmare for nearly all the costume wearers in those films; I think Anthony Daniels got the worst deal, what with the scarring and all.