Yep, Dim, I hope to be alot more surprised than I was last time. I was/am so spoiled that I knew everything that was going to happen before it did. I even knew alot of the lines by the releace. Strangely though I didn't buy the novelisation days before then.
And Anikan, I posted the link to the Ralph McQuarrie pic and discription on the previous page... but here it is again.
Also it was very easy to hide the Father fact from Hammill and Prowse because the important lines were said by James Earl Jones. Mark's lines were changed, but it was still easy to keep him in the dark.
BTW James Earl Jones will be back for EP3, so that should be great to hear/ see again 😮💨
Wizard. that was the exact pic I was talking about. thanks pal.
As to the script. I've read at least 4 for the current Star Wars 2. I've seen one for Ep3 which I'm sure is a fake since I read on the StarWars.com page that GL hadn't finished it a month later. and I even read a script that was about Star Wars 7 featuring a 60 year old Luke and Mara and the main character was Luke's son named Jhon. But I think this now got toasted since the books just had Mara give birth to a son. But I thought I heard the kids name was Ben.
Does any one know for sure the name of Luke and Mara's son?
" Mara who!?!" George Lucas (TF.N April Fools 😉 )
Anyway did you also notice the date on that pic was from Aug 13, 2001? I saw this a long time ago.... There must be a reason to update it.
I believe there is something to that, but probbaly not for ATOC. EP3 more likely.
And as GL has said before, 6 episodes is all SW will be. Unfortunite, so enjoy this time before there will be no more times before new SW films.
Ok, I'll take a look for it some time.
Still, it is very likely that, while it may well have been an option he was considering from the time that the ANH script got into its final incarnation (which was VERY late!) onwards, the decision to make Vader Luke's father wasn't made for a long time after ANH was shown.
Vader was ALWAYS Luke Skywalkers father. Alec Guiness is probably the only one who knew but he had to guess as Lucas just told him that when Obi-Wan tells Luke about his father he isn't being entirley truthfull. Lucas told him that there was a "dark secret " about Vader and Luke and Alec Guiness guessed that it was his father.
You'll probably get the interview in which he said this on an Alec Giuness site.
But Mark Hamill didn't know until he had to rehers the end of ESB.
Watch that scene again, Vader has all the lines about being his father. Luke just whines, yells and bitches.
And if you look close his lips don't match what he is saying. It's close but not quite right. He did those lines later in editing. He didn't even know that was the scene he was doing it for.
I think during filming Vader was saying something like he killed Han or Leia, and that got the "Noooooooo", and "It isn't possible" lines.
I also think he was saying something else other than "Father" when he was on the Falcon escaping from Bespin.
He said GL had him do a lot of lines several different ways, so the crew, Mark, and David were all in the dark. That was the way alot of the OT was kept a secret.