Stressing a little too hard!!!

Everyone talks about how M2 and M3 suck and that neither of them live up to M1. How can anyone say that and keep a straight face? When I first saw M1 it felt like to me that they were able to do this awesome new 'bullet-time' stuff and then started writing a story around it.

Anyone who says the same thing about M2 and M3 are misinformed, as they were planned pretty much the whole time. It's just that the brothers were not sure if they'd ever get to make the other parts.

I am a die-hard fanboy of the matrix just like most of you guys here but you have to take a serious look at the matrix. There is bad acting just like m2 and m3. There is storyline that doesn't conform to the conventional rules of hollywood, just like m2 and 3.... When all of you first saw Trinity jump into the air and kick that police officer there was only 2 reactions:

You either went: "Holy shit!"

or you went: "What?"

Face the fact that the matrix is built on COOL. Without bullet-time or wide anime-inspired shots, the matrix is nothing but a complex philosophy tour. You're waiting for the next 'big scene' or the next 'matrix fight'. There is absolutely nothing that the bros could have done to live up to what everyone expected. It didn't help that Silver was ranting about all this awesome stuff and "We've raised the bar so high there is no bar."

You have to stop classifying the matrix trilogy in a league of it's own (though it obviously deserves one) and realise that it's better than any other thing out there, PERIOD. If you think you could have done better then why aren't you in show business? Of course the matrix has set a new standard for sci-fi films but only for those people who believe film is an artform and are open to new ideas. It won't change modern american filming because the people WANT to go see the same old boring stories told in different ways with not much content. It's a sad fact.

A lot of critics give movies with the same old boring content bad reviews because there is nothing new, but as soon as something new comes out they are quick to bash it because they don't understand it or because it's unusual and not hollywood story-pattern material. And seriously, watch Anime features, after watching about 30-40 or so you will realize exactly where the bros come from. This movie is exactly anime turned real and you shouldn't have expected anything different.

And for those of you who think the matrix was over-retailed... They had hundreds even thousands of companies vying over ad permissions or marketing schemes and almost ALL of them were denied. If this was any other movie, it would have been a 'StarWars: TPM' marketing overload.

It’s not really a good argument to say “If you hate it so much, do you think you could’ve done it better?” That’s not a point.
The matrix is a strange blend of high-culture, pop-culture, mainstream, and underground, tossed into an Anime blender, with equal amounts of added classic storytelling, Hong Kong kung-fu (Anyone who’s a die-hard fan of hong-kong kung-fu know what I mean. The scenes where they take their stances and the they “dust” are CLASSIC!), Japanese Budo-quests and just about anything, that’s made an impact.
What separates M1 from M2 and M3 is the streamlining. M1 had the element of surprise, as well as a strict path, as we saw the world through Neo’s eyes and Morpheus tossed us down the rabbit hole. In M2 and M3 the Wachoskis shoot in as many directions as they possibly can. This, as I see it, is done on purpose. They no longer want to close the Matrix-Universe, but opens “doors that lead to many places” (symbolised by the programmer’s backdoors) and absolutely refuse to show us more THAN the doors.
What’s behind them (who’s the Mero really, who’s Persephone, The Trainman etc. etc.) is up to your imagination. And whether you like that or not is up to you. One of the reasons I, personally, am not the greatest fan of the newest Star Wars movies, is that they CLOSE the universe (was it necessary that Anakin build C3P0, that Boba Fett’s father spawned the clones?).
Yes, some of the critic are stretching it a bit. As a movie-critic on TV said the other day: He wasn’t too thrilled about the way the Matrix Revolutions ended, but he HAD to give the movie 4 out of 6 stars, if nothing else because of the spectacular special effects.
Those who rate it 1 are stubborn.

Yes, it really is an argument, because if they are such good story people and know so much about good movies then they should be able to write their own screenplays. Hell, I have written 3 screenplays that are 120 pages or longer and I am only 19. The problem is GOOD storytelling. I'm nowhere near good but I write my ideas down anyway. The fact is that no matter how crappy they think part 2 or 3 is, part 1 is the same way despite it's 'closedness'. You can look at the films and SEE the wachowski style.

It doesn't take a genius to write a screenplay. It takes one to turn the screenplay into a movie. Or in matrix case, two. Two different directors can read the same script and make the same movie completely different. Don't kid yourself, if these people are smart enough to criticize a movie then they should know how it could have been better, because if they aren't creative enough to know how it could have been better, then how in the world do they know it could have been better?

It's exactly like Kill Bill. The movie receives bad ratings because it's not the same old crap the critics claim they are tired of. In Quentins case, only a few of the critics even picked up on all the B movie references to movies and shows, and those that did absolutely loved the movie. In the Bros case, they are just like GLucas. They write first for themselves and secondly for the fans. The story they told is what they wanted to tell and they don't give a shit what critics or fans say about it because it's not the critics or fans story, it's theirs. When people finally come around they will realize what a great trilogy it is, and just the opposite of Michael Jackson or Vanilla Ice, the fans will become haters and pretend they were never fans. For generations there will be people saying "Oh ya, I remember when they first came out and I was the biggest fan" but they were really haters.

your fingers must hurt

Originally posted by GABRIEL05
I really was talking about the fact that the media industry is totally driven by money.

What business isn't driven by money?