I think I've figured one thing out

The little girl, Sati.

Based on a combination of what I've read in previous topics, and my own opinions, I think I realize what she represents, in my quest to realize the deeper meaning of all the characters and references.

I have seen the question posed pertaining to the sunrise that the girl makes at the end of the movie. It's a very simple answer as to why she does that, and the answer is "because she can". In The Matrix, Morpheous explains to Neo that before him, there was one born in the Matrix who could control it as he saw fit. Contrary to popular belief, this person is not Neo, nor is it a man. Neo, nor any humans were born in the Matrix- they were born in the real world, and hooked up to the Matrix.

Who was born in the Matrix, then? Sati. When Sati wakes Neo up at the Mobile St. train station, we learn that Sadt's mother and father birthed a girl with no purpose. She was not a written program, nor a renegade program- but a girl born in the Matrix- the ONLY one to ever be born in the Matrix.

Thoughts?

Edit: spelling

makes sense to me 🙂

Edit: wrong thread.

What is the topic?

Originally posted by Alias Neo
i didn't understand that part of the movie, achie also said that the people in the matrix who wanted out could be freed, but wouldn't the machines lose some of their power?

No, they meant the people that didn't accept the Matrix program, like Neo, Trinity, Morpheus, etc.

Originally posted by spydar1982
[B]I have many thoughts on the little girl. Does any one know of any connections the name or an influence for the charactor outside of the movie? I am sort of confused why the child is "more importand than you me the one or zion." _not direct quote but from ETM.

Sati (Su-thi , a.k.a. suttee) is the traditional Hindu practice of a widow immolating herself on her husband's funeral pyre.

"Sati" means a virtuous woman. A woman who dies burning herself on her husbands funeral fire was considered most virtuous, and was believed to directly go to heaven, redeeming all the forefathers rotting in hell, by this "meritorious" act. The woman who committed Sati was worshipped as a Goddess, and temples were built in her memory.

Sati was prevalent among certain sects of the society in ancient India, who either took the vow or deemed it a great honor to die on the funeral pyres of their husbands. Ibn Batuta (1333 A.D.) has observed that Sati was considered praiseworthy by the Hindus, without however being obligatory. The Agni Purana declares that the woman who commits sahagamana goes to heaven. However, Medhatiti pronounced that Sati was like suicide and was against the Shastras, the Hindu code of conduct. It is believed that they were not coerced, although several wives committed Sati. The majority of the widows did not undergo Sati.

me 2 🙂

I agree.

does make sense.. but she was written.. thats how you make a program she just wasnt written with a purpose

What were the names of her parents. this might shed some light on the topic, becuase could find refence or any anagrams to their names.

She wasn't written. She was born. Watch that part again for clarification, if need be.

Ya, but she was still a program when she was born so tech, so was still written.

I think you're thinking a little too logically. The reason why she can do anything in the matrix, is because she wasn't written. She definitely was born in the matrix- the trainman was the only way she could get back there.

Maybe your right, but I could have swore that I read somewhere that she was an exciled program or something along that line.

Let me copy my posting from another thread:

I was thinking about importance of the girl, Sati. Obviously, she is in the movie not without a reason. Probably that is the first time program like this is created in The Matrix, and it has to do with love - a human emotion. Must be a part of Oracle's plan, since Sati ended up being with Oracle after leaving Mobil ave. Then I found this (.../forums/showthread.php?threadid=12746&perpage=20&pagenumber=1):

"This we get from ETM:
Ghost: Can you tell me what happened to you?
Oracle: Two programs that I trusted sold the termination code of my original shell to the Merovingian.
Ghost: Why did they do that?
Oracle: For love. For the life of their child.
Ghost: You knew about it, and yet you let it happen?
Oracle: I had to.
Ghost: Why?
Oracle: Because the child is important. I can't tell you why, but I believe one day, the child will change both our world and your world forever".

This seems to be the key to understanding Revoltuions. How did Sati change both worlds?

- did she change Matrix to be "more human"? Then what?
- did she help Oracle to make choices, undestand human nature?
- or it has to do with Smith absorbing Sati, Oracle knew that would happend, so that was the plan?

And then the ending. Sati created the sunrise for Neo, for next Neo?

Another thought I've got. Did Smith want to destroy Matrix before he visited Oracle? Or did Oracle make him want to do that? Or it was Sati - maybe through her Smith have gotten irrational/human emotions.

And that (his wish to destoy Matrix) was a good thing because that made possible the deal between Neo and the machines.

P.S. Sati has nothing to do wish that widows practice. It's the name of the goddes in Hundu mythology:

SATI: Sati was daughter of King Daksha and she married to Lord Shankara against the wishes of her father. King Daksha once performed a sacred yajna and invited all the Gods and sages except Lord Shankara. Sati, went to this yajna in spite of Lord Shankara wish, who was reluctant to sent her without invitation from her father. At her father place, when Sati questioned her father as to why Lord Shiva was not invited, she received only harsh words instead of any explanation. Sati felt insulted on this behavior of her father, she fixed her mind on her Lord, and burnt herself in the sacrificial fire. When Lord Shankara came to know about the incident, he was terribly upset and in delirium started a destructive Tandava with the half burnt body of Sati on his shoulders. All were terrified. To save the universe and to dissuade Lord Shakara from his resolve, Lord Vishnu with the help of his Sudershan Chakra, cut the body of Sati into pieces. All such pieces of Sati’s dead body fell at different places and became pieces of stone....

what does that have to do with any thing, well it was a pretty cool story, but really where does that fit into Rev.?

If you want all your questions answered, just read the bible. Matrix is basically a rip off of that book.

Originally posted by javabean
Another thought I've got. Did Smith want to destroy Matrix before he visited Oracle? Or did Oracle make him want to do that? Or it was Sati - maybe through her Smith have gotten irrational/human emotions.

And that (his wish to destoy Matrix) was a good thing because that made possible the deal between Neo and the machines.

By destroying the Matrix, Smith could destroy human life, which as you might remember from Matrix I, he hated. Human life, that is.