I Dont Get This!!!

Started by Ushgarak2 pages

"OH MY GOD PLEASE WATCH THE ANIMATRIX AGAIN
it actually says in the 2nd renaissance (animatrix) that the nukes 'had no effect on the machines strong shells'.

so there!
we tried nukes, but they didn't work, which is why we scorched the sky"

I have seen it, genius. It says that RADIATION didn;t affect them. Of course the blast hurt them- they can be killed with bullets!

Of course EMP hurts them- that is how it is in the films! You just cannot DENY these things. So 'OH MY GOD'- have some common sense with what you say!

" dude you seem to be missing something here.the moment you automate everything and link them up into a network then you are asking for disaster.a virus can infact the computer programme an start a massive wave u cant stop.to launch a nuke u need computers coz they are monitotered and controlled by computer programmes during storage.now if the computer virus has taken control of that then u cant launch it can u?besides its only a movie dude and it happened ok!"

All of which is pointless to say as in the offiical continuity the humans DID nuke the machines without ANY such problems. It would take barely any effort to disconnect those systems from the sentient machines- apparently there were no such prob,ems, The Machines did not win in any such fashion.

"Think about this. The people of Zion think it's around the year 2100, but in reality, it's prob around 3000. The humans have tech that's about 800 years obsolete! They have armies that show no fear, we do. The best way to stop them was to use the cover of the clouds to sneak into 01 and launch all the EMP's we can muster."

Totally irrelevant- this discussion is about the war BEFORE the time of the Matrix.

"WE"... it's a vision of the future, but not future itself... it's a movie, great one, but still a movie, so it has it flaws. but the nuke thing was indeed explain in the animatrix

Yes, it's stated in the Animatrix....Nuclear weapons wouldn't have done a damn thing! Matter of fact, radiation makes them stronger, and it was the use of nuclear weapons that actually screwed up our way of life...

but an EMP is, what, ELECTROMAGNETIC PULSE, and what is emitted by a thermonuclear device? Heat, Radiation, and ELECTROMAGNTEIC PULSE...this is what Ush is getting at, that, even IF the blast did not take out the machines, the INTENSE emp effects should have...Ush, i honestly don't know what to say to that, i don't.

the nuke,(even a radio, or any other electrical device) can produce an EMP, but just think of the consecuences for the entire planet (the nuke). the humans wanted to destroy the machines, not themselves.

either the w-bros didnt think it thru (hahaha) or the effects were only temporary

i'll only say: IT'S STILL ONLY A MOVIE

Of course a machine within the blast radius would get melted to scrap. And the EMP-blast would disable all electronics within the blast radius (look at the link I posted in my previous post).
But again: There is such a thing called tempest hardening, back-up systems AND… The fact that the radiation is far more harmful to us than to a machine. If war was coming, would the machines just go around, tending their… urhm… gardens? They’d take protective measures. Such as shelters, back-up systems, hacker infiltration of human computer-systems AND tempest-hardening.

I agree with what Omega said. These machines were not stupid. I'm sure they took measures to protect themselves.

Ush> Ok good... I'm glad you knew about the radius of an EMP because I sure didn't. I wouldn't have imagined it could be that big, but apparently it is.

So, as jedi and Ush are saying "why didn't the EMP stop them"
Dunno, they must've been prepared for it somehow. Backup armies or such. Unless there is just supposed to be some new level of technology that they just didn't mention (which is lame).

Well I know this for sure... I'm gonna have to at least watch it again before I open my mouth on the subject. 😬