New situation

let me try this again. USA claims they were attaced from abroad. They also claim this attack to be an act of war. After the USA handed over the evidence aiming bin Ladens network, Nato accepted the US claim that the attack was an act of war.
When Nato decided to accept US claims, means that when one membering NAto country is attacked ALL the membering countries are attacked. This is the article 5.(one for all, all for one)
WAR is not decleared yet but TECHNICALLY we are at war according to the Nato resolution.
I quote the Norwegian minister of foreign affairs
"NATO has accepted the proof that the terrorist attack in NYC and W.DC is looked at as an foreign attack, and this means it is an attack on all membering countries"

But I think I do remember reading that the US itself has decided not to invoke article 5.

AWWE, our first war since Korea....

what about the Kosovo conflict

Any one been in the military (tour of duty) or in the reserves.

I did my tour of duty in the army`s infantry division.
Now I`m enlisted in the reserves mobilizing forces. And of course our yearly drill comes now. Man its gonna be strict this year.
Im so not looking forward to a week in the mud 🙁

Kosovo was a peace mission.

So was Srebenica, but then our guys didn't have guns. Hardly a war that.

Planes bombed Belgrade as I recalled, that is not a peacemission.

But it was. And that was UN, not NATO. This is legally different. Here we actually declare war.

"This war is not like any other war we've seen before"...yada yada ya

We're not at war; article 5 just said that we should support the attacked country
so by giving 5franks (=0.12$) we supported the US 😄

I think Belgrade WAS NATO, actually. I think there was a lot of controversy about that. It was NATO's first military move... ever. Because even Korea was the UN. But it was technically outside NATO's remit. It was a joint operation with the Russians, and then of course the Chinese got narked when their embassy was hit.

Finti, I think the idea is that while the other NATO countries have accepted that article 5 applies, the US is not actually expected to call on their direct military support as the article entitles them to.

Kosovo conflict was a war indeed. Norway got involved by sending fighter planes(f-16) and they participated in the bombing of Belgrade. It was the first time since ww2 Norwegian military forces had taken a part in an attack on a foreign country. And it is still a NATO operation going on on the Balkans.

The article V is called "One for all, all for one" and if the USA wants help with an enemy, we (the other 18 NATO members) are obligated to come to their aid.

The enemy question is kind of diffuse, but there is no doubt Afghanistan is the target. So should it be the terrorist camps the Taliban forces.

USA has decleared war on terrorisme, so if they are at war so are the other NATO members. So in a technically (again) sence we are at war with terrorisme.

Did anybody watch Prime minister Tony Blairs press conferance yesterday?
He is picking a fight with the Taliban.

"Surrender the terrorists or surrender power."

Nobody listen to me! I feel like Calimero!
Article 5 is that the attacked country receivs militairy OR OTHER support against the country that attacked them

Well yerssot thats what s been said all along just in other words.

Simple you have to keep it! Mesa not understand very well things, difficult English is!

Bah! Who needs regular verbs...?

What? Do we speak English here?

Have anybody, beside myself , had any military experience?

I: watergun-experience for 14 years.

Seriously: I hope that no-body has to go to the army here!

Already in it mate.