john smith> doom is amazing; special herbs all day. I'm eagerly awaiting for the madvillian lp.
metal face> i don't think too many people are ready for that list. most people would only recognize outkast; maybe j5, maybe.
keep representing the underground fellas, they need to hear more of that.
madsci
hip hop purist
Originally posted by ragesRemorse
LOL. Juice...Repetitive GARBAGE. just another shitty mystikal, or maybe mystikal is just another shitty juice. which ever one it may be, they both still suck, and follow that same old rap shit formula. Instead of trying to be original
WTF
do u even know who JUICE is???
tell me:
-why he's repetitive
-why canibus isnt
-what material you've heard from him
-how in the world can u compare him to mystikal(????he's NOTHING like mystikal)
-how isnt he original
until you can answer those questions,ur opinion is VOID
i def wanna know what uv heard from him because from ur wack ass opinion,u havent heard shit
aww dag bro, dont be hatin like dat cuz. It all good in da hood, right B? Yo sho'nuff gots da rapper mentality. Instead of being civialized and asking for opinions, you go off on an arrogant demand. Claiming my opinion is in valid "whack", because i havent asnwered the questions that you just manifested.
I never said that juice wasnt a good rapper. In my opinion however canibus is a better freestyle artist. In all actuality Juice, and canibus are very similar in the way the structure there lyrics. I think canibus creates better beats, and can also flow on any given beat on any given momment, which he has proven. Juice may have went on a straight five minute flow that i havent heard. I acknowledge i havent heard much of him. I have heard his album period 12". And many songs here and there from my friends who are fans. Canibus's well known track 100 bars gives great insight into his talent. However i have heard his underground tracks. Dismay, and 100 bars plus one. No rapper has been able to go on a flow like those three tracks. Even Nas who holds that great "street credit" Says he can't match the length of canibus's flows, and doesnt know anyone who could. I simply refered to juice as being similar to mystikal, because i think he doesnt do anything original, and only follows what work's. Of course he is more talented than mystikal, but of course sarcasim is a beautifull thing.
DMX isnt repetitive. Of course he has his title tracks that are dedicated to "thug life" Those follow a repetitve formula, but he only does one of those for each album, and that is to hold true to the image that he gave himself from the begining of his career. DMX goes of on many things, from personal expeirences to life, to faith, to the future. He also has alternate intentions in his music, that he has made apparent. Which are to help people make the right descions that he was faced with, but never chose.
Well Dawg i'z hope i still not commin off as whack to you, Because i'z sure enouf know that you hold the wisdom and knowledge that transcend opinion into fact. Untill you stop wit da block talk, your whack
1-who's spells wack "whack"?.a wack person does.
2-u did say juice was a bad rapper.u said he sucked (along with mystikal),and speaking of mystikal,it still doesnt make sense why u would bring him up/compare him to JUICE.unoriginal or not.
3-canibus is a dope freestyler but all of his albums are GARBAGE and flopped big time and he is NOT better than JUICE.you obviously havent heard his freestyles.
4-DMX is TOTALLY repetitive and rapping about personal experiances,faith,"the future" is completely unoriginal.
"its all good", but u did nothing to back up your points.you haven't proved why he's repetitive,why he "sucks",why he's not original,and on top of that you haven't even heard any of his albums.
holla at ya boy
ya muppet
who uses the word wack in a sentecne? A "wack" person does.
The english language is a beautiful thing,you should check it out sometime.
When it comes to music, or pretty much anyhting in this world NOTHING is original. Music already exists, we only discover it. The way to gain originality in music or anyhting else is all how you present it. This means lyrically. So i guess originiality lies in the ear of the listener in this case. The concept of rap, like all other music has become outdated, and repetitive. It is the lyrics,and new perspective's that keep music going strong, with a new style. Style and origininality are very different. Juice has his own style, but never breaks away from it to tred to grounds. He stays with what works, Just as most rappers and musicians do. It's all presented in the same style, that is why i say juice is repetitive, but so are most all musicians and rappers.
You say DMX is unoriginal because he rap's about things that other rappers touch on, Well again NOTHING is original. It's all how you present your material. X has great diversity in his presentation. He enver stay's on one subject to long. The subjects that he does touch on, are'nt the same old rap bullshit formula. He speaks his mind and hopes in his music, along with entertainment. Very remeniscant of tupac. I'm not comparing the two on ability, just on there style. People like NAS,Raekwon, and many others follow the same style with there own presentation. Juice is very much like canibus. Not really having a point or direction in what he is rapping about. Constantly challenging other rapper's, and claiming to be the best. I get the feeling rappers do this in hope's that someone will reply on there last flow about being the greatest, so they may gain some new material, because they have a great understanding on how to mix words, but lack the substance that makes a great artist. Again i havent heard to much of Juice aside of period 12" and what my friends offer. I do however know his reputation is viewed much like canibus's.
About bringing up mystikal, well that is just sarcasm
Originally posted by ragesRemorse
LOL. Juice...Repetitive GARBAGE. just another shitty mystikal, or maybe mystikal is just another shitty juice. which ever one it may be, they both still suck, and follow that same old rap shit formula. Instead of trying to be original
how are u going to tell me that JUICE is not original and then go off on a paragraph rampage saying how nobody can be original.
you don't make sense at all
all of your points are VOID and shouldnt be taken seriously for two simple reasons
#1-you said JUICE sucked.then,in your next post,you said "i never said he was a bad rapper".
how are u gonna say some shit like that?doesn't make sense
#2-like i said,u called JUICE unoriginal and then went on in another post saying how NOTHING is original
make some sense man
and the spelling of "whack" doesnt mean the same as the spelling "wack"
"whack" is like you're whacking off(which i'm sure ur used to)
and "wack" is what you are
get a thesaures.the english language is a beautiful thing,u should learn how to use it properly
come back when u learn how to make sense and when u learn how to use words properly
Originally posted by ragesRemorse
When it comes to music, or pretty much anyhting in this world NOTHING is original. Music already exists, we only discover it. The way to gain originality in music or anyhting else is all how you present it. This means lyrically. So i guess originiality lies in the ear of the listener in this case. The concept of rap, like all other music has become outdated, and repetitive. It is the lyrics,and new perspective's that keep music going strong, with a new style. Style and origininality are very different. Juice has his own style, but never breaks away from it to tred to grounds. He stays with what works, Just as most rappers and musicians do. It's all presented in the same style, that is why i say juice is repetitive, but so are most all musicians and rappers.
u haven't even heard any of JUICE's albums so you obviously don't know what you're talking about
when you actually listen to the artists material and not just a 12inch,then your opinion will be valid