I don't know what EP stands for but if it has something to do with the fact that a lot of the songs were just stuff they had lying around and decided to make into an album then I guess your right. I mean "**** the System" is a song I've know long before I ever realy knew SOAD and I was surprised to finaly see it in "Steal This Album" cd but still It may just be me but I concider it an album.
EP stands for extended play, and they used to be releases which were too long to be singles, but too short to be albums, and usually containing 7 or 8 songs.
Now EP is also applied to material not released as an 'official' album, in Steal This Album's case, a record full of old material not included on previous recordings. I would consider it an album too, it's certainly long enough, but I'm happy not to, because it's shit compared to the other two.
*sigh* some people...first of all an EP(which does stand for Extended Play) has nothing to do with length and the songs being singles or not. usually its just a cd of a preview of a bands upcoming album. in that case, its just a final produced copy of the songs that, in most cases were on the bands demo(usually roughly produced.) sometimes they have 1 long song/s (Meshuggah's I EP release.), or they have anywhere from 1 to 7 songs (Pariahs EP released about 3 months ago). Many times a song on an EP is infact a single.(again i refer to Meshuggahs I album). Sometimes CDs with previously unreleased material, are wrongfully labled "EP", when they are unsuprisingly just an album of Unreleased material,and sometimes having older songs being accompanied by a few new songs such as Metallica's Garage Days album.
Now on to Nu-Metal. Nu Metal retty much explains itself—it’s a revitalised form of metal, usually geared towards the more mainstream of listeners. This is the main reason Nu-Metal is shunned by those into the more underground is because most of it is corporate, played by bands who are looking for fame and fortune, and not into music for the sake of playing music. Undergrounders are usually more into the whole music scene, going to local and underground shows that the main populous of kids dont know about. The more extreme forms of metal definitley employ more use of talent and therefore are regarded as better than most of the Nu Metal bands. Dont get me wrong, there are several genuine Nu Metal bands who arent halfbad (Soilwork, In Flames, Slipknot, and Mudvayne etc.)It has NOTHING to do with lack of solos. thats the most retarded thing ive ever heard. This tells me one thing. You havent heard many real Nu Metal bands. what a shame. another reason many underground metal heads dont like Nu Metal is because of the crowd it draws, which is mostly a bunch of Hot Topic poster kids thrown into a half ass "mosh pit". Underground kids usually take music more seriously than that of the nu metal kids. ecspecially the Hardcore crowd,who consider the hardcore music a way of life, and some will even straight up kick your ass for not being hardcore enough. say it only if ya know it though, correcting gets old.
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Originally posted by moshtitan
*sigh* some people...first of all an EP(which does stand for Extended Play) has nothing to do with length and the songs being singles or not. usually its just a cd of a preview of a bands upcoming album. in that case, its just a final produced copy of the songs that, in most cases were on the bands demo(usually roughly produced.) sometimes they have 1 long song/s (Meshuggah's I EP release.), or they have anywhere from 1 to 7 songs (Pariahs EP released about 3 months ago). Many times a song on an EP is infact a single.(again i refer to Meshuggahs I album). Sometimes CDs with previously unreleased material, are wrongfully labled "EP", when they are unsuprisingly just an album of Unreleased material,and sometimes having older songs being accompanied by a few new songs such as Metallica's Garage Days.
No, that's just an example of what an EP can be used as. There are tons of bands who have released EP's as independent releases which have nothing to do with their upcoming albums. Opiate (Tool), From The Depths Of Dreams (Senses Fail), Black-Ash Inheritance & Subterranean (both In Flames) just to name four.
In fact, there are numerous EP's which mess around with material from previous albums, Back To School (Deftones), Closer To God (NIN) spring to mind. EP's are often basically extended singles, it's not an opinion, it's a fact. Also, how can they be wrongly labelled as EP's when the band themselves have actually released them as an EP?
"No, that's just an example of what an EP can be used as. There are tons of bands who have released EP's as independent releases which have nothing to do with their upcoming albums. Opiate (Tool), From The Depths Of Dreams (Senses Fail), Black-Ash Inheritance & Subterranean (both In Flames) just to name four."
notice i said usually,implying that it was an example, as there are tons of bands that have released Eps as previews of their albums. i was just pointing out some undiscussed terms.
"In fact, there are numerous EP's which mess around with material from previous albums, Back To School (Deftones), Closer To God (NIN) spring to mind. EP's are often basically extended singles, it's not an opinion, it's a fact. Also, how can they be wrongly labelled as EP's when the band themselves have actually released them as an EP?"
again notice i said sometimes, not pointing out any paticulars. i never said that there werent any EPs with older material. and many bands have released a cd not intended to be called a EP, but just as many bands who have.dont get me wrong, im not disagreeing with you. but i do think the term EP covers to vast an area to be grouped up into what it is or what its not. but were straying from topic.