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ok next question (this is fun lol)

communism vs capitalism.

my parents lived during the time of communism near RUssia. They said it was perfect except for the fact you cant believe in ur religion. At the schools they would ask u everyday the same question, "do you believe in God". and u had to answer "no". if u answered "yes" (which dads best friend did as a kid) you would get punished. what u guyz think..

well first of all the "communism"in russia wasn't "communism like Marx deviced it, it was "leninism" and "stalinism"
there are a few differences

but just the basic communism against the capitalism

communism wins capitalism is all about competition, which frees mimethical craving (no idea wether or not this is written right, free translation) and communism tries to negate mimethical craving by making everyone equal. same stuff, same pay, same religion (none), same idea's and so on.

(mimethical craving means that you want something just cause someone else has it. like your neighboor has two cars so you feel jealous and want two cars as well, but when you have two cars you look at your other neighboor who also has a boat, so you want a boat aswell.... and so forth)

true^
anyone else?

Capitalism for me. With communism competition is wiped out, but competition is what forces us to grow and hopefully better ourselves. It is the driving force of evolution and with capitalism we are forced to compete in order to survive, evolving economically as well as socially. I admit it does promote a certain level of greed but sometimes greed isn't such a bad thing.

Originally posted by h0ck3yh0rr0r
ok next question (this is fun lol)

I agree 😄, finally a thread with an intelligent conversation 🙄

too much competition will lead to too much unhealthy feelings

But NO competition will lead to social/economical stagnation and eventual decline because of an inability to adapt.
I guess what would be best is a semi-controlled capitilism.

Originally posted by Friend44
What do you do with a kid that steals bread to feed? Cutting his head would be wrong. I say, amputate his left leg - this way he can't run away if he steals again.

I couldn't allow this to just drop into history...

There's a whole other level to consider. Why is that kid resorting to theft in order to feed himself? Is he a junkie, living on the streets? Is he a runaway? Was he kicked out of his home by his parents, incapable of finding a church or homeless shelter that could help him out? Were there any special reasons why the victim of his theft was chosen? Did he take time to consider who would suffer the least from his wrongdoing?

Nothing's so clear-cut, but there's certainly a likelihood that his theft would be the indirect result of a previous transgression. 🙂

Originally posted by Fire
(mimethical craving means that...

*mimetical 👆

Originally posted by Hegemon875
But NO competition will lead to social/economical stagnation and eventual decline because of an inability to adapt.
I guess what would be best is a semi-controlled capitilism.

I presume that we're envisioning a global government here? Of course, a kind of Russia/USA-type situation, wherein the communist state still has a powerful adversary, allows a great deal of driving competition.

I feel that, as things are now, even a single, unified socialist or communist government would still find ample reason for advancement. With oil getting used up, the hole in the o-zone growing again, and our planet on the whole just going to shit, we have at least one goal - fixing it all.

Complicated, when I read your reply, I kind of get why you chose that for your user...

Complicated> I was thinking globally when I posted that

Friend, you're right, 🙂 and Hege, that makes sense. 🙂

Next topic anyone?

... Genesis?

Genesis or Pop Corn... Anyone?

How about stem cell research do you support or oppose?

i love science. as u can see im very interested in all types of science/medicine. (check under my username lol). i dont have any problems with science except cloning. Cloning is the only thing i disagree with in science. sorry im typing fast cuz i g23g eat piz9zza. bye

depends on what you want to do with that cell research:

cell research to clone body parts or to cure some heraditairy (sp) diseases sounds good. also the cloning of endangered animals is something I would allow

cloning of humans is over the top.

Why is cloning humans over the top, Fire?

(Sorry, I feel like playing Socrates for a while)

(no problem-in a philosophical mood today anyway, tho more a modern day fan-)

Because, from the moment of creation you break the clones' human right of free choice. It ain't because the person that is being cloned is in favor of cloning that the clone will be in favore of it.

Lets say the clone is totaly opposed to cloning and he ever finds out he is cloned, I wouldn't want anyone to having to live with that feeling.

Wether or not a clone can differe on opinion with the original can be debatted. But can never be proven until we try this. Unless we find some very very very intelligent animal to clone, don't think there is one. And also our opinions are formed by our past experiences in life, not only our genetic structure

no i dont.