Subliminal message!

Started by JediHDM4 pages

mook> i see why you say it is a 6, however i do not think the number '6' has any relevance to what Smith is becoming, any more than being the 20th king has any relevance to how you govern your people...and i'm not saying that the idea of Kings is important to the argument, but i'm making a parallel to real life in this statement...and Smith, the person we see the light coming out of, is NOT the ONE, thus whether he is the 6th or not, again, has no pertinence...

what if its just a hole, and that's all its meant to be
not a number, or anything
just a hole?

Originally posted by JediHDM
mook> i see why you say it is a 6, however i do not think the number '6' has any relevance to what Smith is becoming, any more than being the 20th king has any relevance to how you govern your people...and i'm not saying that the idea of Kings is important to the argument, but i'm making a parallel to real life in this statement...and Smith, the person we see the light coming out of, is NOT the ONE, thus whether he is the 6th or not, again, has no pertinence...

ok your approaching this from a different angle from me;
i think the number refers to Neo and is a 6 shining thru from Neo; who has entered smiths body, and so is shining thru (like after smith explodes neo is standing glowing/shining.)

you believe the number refers to smith and what he will become after neo destroys him.

in conclusion, when you say "however i do not think the number '6' has any relevance to what Smith is becoming" - i agree with you as i do not think that what smith becomes/is becoming is relevant in this scene.
i think this scene is all about Neo becoming the one; dies/reborn, see the matrix in code, enters+destroys an agent...

The "loop" that is seen above the zero is most likely just cracks.

Originally posted by mook
ok your approaching this from a different angle from me;
i think the number refers to Neo and is a 6 shining thru from Neo; who has entered smiths body, and so is shining thru (like after smith explodes neo is standing glowing/shining.)

you believe the number refers to smith and what he will become after neo destroys him.

in conclusion, when you say "however i do not think the number '6' has any relevance to what Smith is becoming" - i agree with you as i do not think that what smith becomes/is becoming is relevant in this scene.
i think this scene is all about Neo becoming the one; dies/reborn, see the matrix in code, enters+destroys an agent...

If Neo had become the anomaly after jumping into Smith, I'd agree, but he's already the anomaly after he's shot.

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Some insightful comments, to be sure, but do we really need such "astute" observations as "Fire usually signifies destruction". I COULD'VE TOLD YOU THAT!

If it is anything I would have to go with the 0. Not only does this make the most sense out of theories, but also keep in mind that this is a still shot. At some point there had to be just a Zero, but because it's a "motion" picture it branches off and breaks apart. I think what we need is an early picture to see if it is just a Zero.

I don't think it's a 6, because there is no reason for this seeing as Neo is the sixth one not Smith. I don't think it's a 9, because that would make absolutely no sense. The only other thing it could be is 666, but that would just be dumb and the other "6's" aren't as clear as the middle shape. The only thing it could be and have meaning would be the Zero, because this is the excact moment that Smith becomes Zero. I don't know how this could be anything else.

Originally posted by The Omega
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The Unknown>If Neo had become the anomaly after jumping into Smith, I'd agree, but he's already the anomaly after he's shot.

you could say he is the anomaly all his life - but it is only during the events of the film that he realisies that he is. this is what the last 27mins of the film is about - mopheus rescue,subway,rebirth,seeing code,destroying an agent.

Lag>I think what we need is an early picture to see if it is just a Zero.

yeah, we need to see earlier frames to be sure.

Lag>I don't think it's a 6, because there is no reason for this seeing as Neo is the sixth one not Smith.

this is exactly my point: Neo is the 6th 'one'. He is inside smith, causing him to explode. when smith explodes neo is left SHINING in the hallway.
so when we see the 6 shining thru from inside smith it is a subliminal messsage teling us Neo is indeed the 6th 'one'.
this scene is all about Neo.

Lag>I think what we need is an early picture to see if it is just a Zero.

yeah, we need to see earlier frames to be sure.

does anyone have early frames (compared with the pic in original post) so i can see if its definitely a 6?

I'm 99.99% sure that's the only frame where it is seen.

Originally posted by The One Himself
no no no! It's a 9 😆 😆 😆

i no doesnt it look like a 9??? 😕

The cracks around the Zero make it look like a 6 or a 9, though it may have just been a glitch or random thing created by a visual effects program.

it's just a smilie. loook....

😆 No but seriously, reading this thread for the first time.. I see the six, it's a six, and the W. Bros are the coolest people I know 😉

It looks like a zero. His shirt is white, so it makes you think there's a loop around the tie. The part on the tie is probably just another crack.

Eh, but its cool. I like the 6 theory✅

i cannot believe this! If you were making a movie, and not making it so that people would watch the movie, freeze framing nearly every shot, and try to uncover some theory on everything! would you? I mean give the w. bros. a break, some stuff in there is not intentional nor does it have any meaning! I mean for crying out loud people, do you not have anything better to do than sit and watch a movie looking for obscure symbols that are going to give you some deeper meaning?? Just watch the movie and enjoy, watch again, and over and over if you want, but please use your time for something better, read a book, don't sit and freeze frame the whole movie looking for stuff! 😠
I bet the people that find these freeze framed things, go through the whole trilogy trying to connect things! ... you would think people would have more to do!

Here here... but hey I didn't do it 😛 Vim, you have a very good point: theye included stuff that probably has no meaning at all, we just try and end up putting meaning behind it!