Finally, the six year old son of Reed and Susan Richards; Franklin. The reason I haven't discounted the Celestials yet is to say this. They were afraid of him!!! he created another world to save them all that rotated on the opposite side of the sun. An entire world with 6 billion people, and he wasn't even aware that he did it! And in future alternate universe, he became Galactus. All others just seem like punks after stunts like that.Ive got "Heroes reborn" it never said that franklin created 6 billion people (could only be 4 million), also the pocket world was never on the opposite side of the sun. Franklin carried it with him and was HIS little blue ball.
Nathaniel Richards (grand father of franklin) wore a psionic armour which protects him and enables him to"siphon" franklins as well as hyperstorms (franklin and rachiel summers' son) powers. This armour however was useless against onslaught, with just a wave of his hand he tore it apart (shown in ONSLAUGHT "comrades in arms"😉.
Onslaught is not nearly as powerful as Galactus, and neither is Apocalypse. Franklin Richards shunted his own considerable burgeoning powers.
One of the most powerful beings in the multiverse, the Tribunal can turn a star into a supernova with a single force bolt."
Originally posted by monaroCountry
onslaught can create a star with a single thought.
And Franklin Richards created an entire universe with a single thought.
By the way, Onslaught possessed the combined mutant abilities of Professor X and Magneto, neither of which could "create stars."
Where did you happen upon this bit of misinformation?
And Franklin Richards created an entire universe with a single thought. ...By the way, Onslaught possessed the combined mutant abilities of Professor X and Magneto, neither of which could "create stars.".....Where did you happen upon this bit of misinformation?No misinformation, read ONSLAUGHT (all marvel comics in 1996 should have a huge part dedicated to the fight against onslaught). Why am I right? Because ive still got the comics. BTW franklin only created a "pocket universe" i.e. not complete and not full size (the small blue ball he carried around with him, read heroes reborn). Also Onslaught was more than just the combination of x and mag. Onslaught was a "new being", "you are a crucible of conflicting emotions and untapped powers that birth me...but as you can see I HAVE GROWN FAR BEYOND THAT". True mags and x cant create suns, however onslaught can and did create a second sun (final battle between the heroes and onslught).
Originally posted by monaroCountry
No misinformation, read ONSLAUGHT (all marvel comics in 1996 should have a huge part dedicated to the fight against onslaught). Why am I right? Because ive still got the comics.
Your point? I have the comics as well.
Pocket universe or otherwise, it was a universe that contained the heroes shrunk to the size of the blue ball.
Onslaught was more than just the combination of x and mag.
He was not, his powers were a combination of Xavier's and Magneto's only. He "absorbed" a few others and tapped into their powers. And that is exactly why he was a being of pure psionic energy after his armor was cracked open by the Hulk.
Re: His strength, probably Magneto.
And that being said, Franklin Richards still possesses reality warping abilities, which Onslaught does not.
Originally posted by JuggernautFan
magneto would never be strong enough to slug it out with hulk. not now, not ever. so where did his immense strength come from??
Let me show you something (partial listing):
Strength Levels
CLASS 100
Gladiator
Forgotten One
Iron Man I (enhanced by armor and sufficiently powerful energy sorce)
Mephisto
Silver Surfer
War Machine (enhanced by armor and sufficiently powerful energy sorce)
Magus
Apocalypse
Atlas
Ymir
Magneto <-------------------------------
Utgard-Loki
Thanos
Joseph
Hmm, see a familiar name? The one next to the nice little arrow? Okay, let me show you something else:
"Strength Level: Magneto can use his magnetic powers to increase his physical strength up through Class 100 (the ability to lift over 100 tons)."
Hence my saying he probably got it from Magneto. Clear?
well the hulk is basically invincible because he regenerates... he has no metal on him that Magneto can take advantage of otherthen that of which in his body (iron) the only way he could probably defeat him is through making him iron deficient lol... The hulk at a certain points levels skin is inpenetrable by anything and anger only makes him stronger.... The hulk has very little mental capacity so controlling his mind would be simple or rather interesting if there is anything to actually control.... Physically the hulk is invincible to anything magneto can throw at him.
Magneto is my favorite villian but i don't see how he could actually hurt the hulk... 100 tons is less then a battleship... the hulk can toss those around easy.... at a certain level.
Mentally powerful characters are my favs but they are different then living armor basically... Thats why Magneto could probably win through cunning rather then trying to beat the hulk down.
i know that already. you are stating nothing new. but magnet's strength couldn't ever rival hulks. only under the direst of circumstances could he reach a 100 ton level. using his own body. he couldn't hit with 100 ton's of force, nor could he take a hulk level blow. he simply cannot roll with the hulk by using physical force.
Originally posted by Raventheonly
well the hulk is basically invincible because he regenerates... he has no metal on him that Magneto can take advantage of otherthen that of which in his body (iron) the only way he could probably defeat him is through making him iron deficient lol...
no, i´m seing there are things you don´t know about him, magneto can control the iron in hulk´s blood, and he can control the magnetic field of hulk, because all human bodies possess a magnetic field, and magnus can control all types both natural or artificial.
alright alright, let's make a list of beings of incomprehensible power: The living Tribunal, Franklin Richards, Eternity, Infinity, Lord Chaos, Master Order, Access. above them is the Universal brother, the embodiment of the marvel multiverse that exists in a field of nothingness beside his brother, the DC universe. below all of these are ego, thanos, galactus, the phoenix force, Onslaught, Magneto, Mephisto, Belasco, dr. strange, dormamu, the silver surfer, si'm n'astirh, magik, and both goblin queens (maddy prior and temporarily typhoid mary). I put magneto on the list simply because he managed to kill phoenix. well, those are the most powerful but not necesarily infallible. even mephisto got his ass handed to him by daredevil
let's disregard dc/marvel crossovers. with the brothers. they suck, they make no sense. they were decided by fan polls. atleast some of them were. not all. in the MARVEL universe whoever controlls the HEART OF THE UNIVERSE is the most powerful being there is. atleast the most powerful being that has been shown thus far. i have no idea bout dcu, that's open for debate. but for marvel, it should be disclosed because i already told you that.
Originally posted by JuggernautFan
i know that already. you are stating nothing new. but magnet's strength couldn't ever rival hulks. only under the direst of circumstances could he reach a 100 ton level.
Um...what?
"Even before his rejuvenation, Magneto once lifted a cargo freighter weighing 30,000 tons 50 feet into the air from a distance of 300 feet away. Moreover, Magneto can use his magnetic powers in more than one way simultaneously."
100 ton? Heh, 300 times that. Already pointed out that it has been said his power is, for all intents and purposes, "limitless."
And again:
Strength Level: Magneto can use his magnetic powers to increase his physical strength up through Class 100 (the ability to lift over 100 tons).
It says Magneto can use his magnetic powers to increase HIS PHYSICAL STRENGTH up THROUGH Class 100. Not sure about you, but "HIS PHYSICAL STRENGTH" reads as "using his body" to me.
As far as him hitting as hard as the Hulk, nobody in the entire Marvel Universe can. Well, no earth-based hero at least.
well that is exactly what i meant when i said that magneto cannot lift what hulk can. nor could he punch it out with hulk. with magnetics he can lift 30,000 tons, but put his body underneath that and let his physical form try to support it. what happens. splat. magneto would have to use another form of his power to defeat hulk. this isnt even the point of this thread.