Cypher and Smith

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Cypher and Smith

So do you think you can actually be re-entered in to the martix, like Cypher wanted or do you think Smith was lying to get what he wanted.

you just jack yourself in, or get jacked in, thats how to enter the matrix

He means Re-Inserted, as in being put back into a pod. Yes it is definately possible because they do it to Neo at the end of the Revolutions. Why? I hear you ask. Because he had a 'choice'.

Uh... they do?

Yes, what the hell do you think all of the wires coming from the floor are? Tentacles? 💃

yeah, but i think, what he asks is, would they? would they actually put you back in, or would they just kill you?

No, they would give them what they want, because they asked.

And the machines are never shown to lie. They'd probably give Cypher what he wanted.

Machines aren't your classic bad guys who lie all the time.Most machines can't see"choice" so lying AND promising is beyond them.Hm..We could start a thread on whether machines lie or don't lie.

yep, machines certainly do not have choice and what they do is supposedly "right". Not unless their too cheap and just kill him...no! That's a waste of a good battery...but they still have fields of human batteries. Hmm...

They'd have put him back in if he would have lived.

The arch at the end of revo, when asked if he'd keep his word said "what do you think I am? human."

He'd have gone back into the gooey sleep...

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Re: Cypher and Smith

Originally posted by Virus2nd
So do you think you can actually be re-entered in to the matrix, like Cypher wanted or do you think Smith was lying to get what he wanted.

we know they can change the matrix (after the black cat in m1) so they could reinsert cypher and change it so hes the "important actor"...

[QUOTE]Originally posted by audioheem
Uh... they do? [/QUO

uhh thwy were the machines wires what went into Neos body for the Anti Virus, they were coming off him

They do? I think they go into him. Do you have a clip of it or anything?

the wires come out of the floor, go into Neo, then, after Neo has destroyed Smith (not antivirus) the wires/cords go back INTO the floor

yes that was what i was on about, when he was going away from the screen for the last time all the wired got disconnected from him

Yes, that is what I said - why is it being repeated?

The entire point is that YES, the machines can plug a human BCAK inside the Matrix. The rebels hack the program in question. The Deus ex Machina just “made” those for Neo on the spot (I think that’s what’s causing some confusion).
They just take a pod, down goes the human who wants to be re-inserted, a little mind-work, and voila. The machines can even rewrite the Matrix so Mr. Reagan is a… famous… actor 😄

There has been NO evidence for any of the machines lying in all three movies.

Virus2nd> But I'm curious. What exactly is the point?

Ah! I was about to ask the same question, but being a considerate forum member, I searched first! ✅
Basically, it was a "what if" I think, Omega. Would Smith have really given Cypher whatever he wanted? Or would he have killed him along with the rest of the Neb? When he says "We must continue as planned; deploy the sentinels.", was that always planned? If so, that would seem that Smith was lying to Cypher... anyone else have any ideas?