Isildur's Heirs???????

Started by Ushgarak2 pages

Easy to call Earnur a fool, but he led the army that destroyed Angmar.

If Aragorn was the greatest in his line since Arvedui, then Boromir was considered to be the like return of Earnur.

The dispute between Gondor and Arnor about whether Arvedui's claim was good was based on a dispute over two things:

1. Whether the line of descent could pass through the female. Arvedui said yes, Gondor said no.

2. Whether Isildur intended for Arnor and Gondor to be divided. Arvedui said no, Gondor... kinda didn't reply because they were losing the argument, and stopped talking to him.

Tolkien makes it clear that Arvedui was in the right- the descendant of the High King of a Unified realm and with every right to take that throne- and then choose to leave someone to rule in his stead if he so wished. Because Gondor chose badly, the chance was lost for the the great rebuilding of the Kingdom of man to happen then, instead of 1000 years later under Aragorn.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Easy to call Earnur a fool, but he led the army that destroyed Angmar.

If Aragorn was the greatest in his line since Arvedui, then Boromir was considered to be the like return of Earnur.


Ok, fool is kinda the wrong word... but I think he should have tried to keep his emotions down a little. He flew into a rage too easily, couldn't really control himself when somebody made fun of him, like the Witchking did.

Earnur-Boromir is an interesting comparison ✅ their characters are pretty similar

"Boromir, five years the elder, beloved by his father, was like him in face and pride, but little else. Rather he was a man after the sort of King Earnur of old, taking no wife and delighting chiefly in arms; fearless and strong, but caring little for lore, save the tales of old battles."

From the Appendices. I would not be surprised if this was actually a deliberate mirroring by Tolkien- save that that time around, it is Arvedui who dies first and Earnur who leads the triumphant battle afterwards- but is still killed later by his flaws.

Originally posted by Exabyte

2050 😖hifty:


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Thanks. 😄

what ever happened to Earnur? was there anything else wrote on him after just waltzing into the Morgul 😐

Originally posted by Discos
what ever happened to Earnur? was there anything else wrote on him after just waltzing into the Morgul 😐

No, there was nothing, no info bout his death, thats why they had the Stewards - otherwise they wouldve made somebody else king, some relative of him or whatever, but as nobody knew if hed ever return, they just made the stewards rule in the meantime... for the next 1930 years 😖hifty:

lol fair enough,

Ush was sort of right - "fool" indeed

walking into bleeding Minas Morgul, wise up 😬

its like being an english fan sitting in the germany stand at a football match (the match being Germany Vs England)

He was a proud man, and he was getting old.

I bet if you had told him he would die there, he would have said better that than to drift into old age and infirmity.

mmm......good point,

are you saying he knew his time was up so he just died in "bestway seems fit to him"