Neo not seen by link

But it was totally different with Smith. Morpheus pretty quickly identified Smith, but Link couldn't even see Neo(we'll say that for now, I guess). I think that Link should have been able to recognize the 'physical' appearance of Neo's RSI. Remember in M1 when Cypher said "All I see is blonde, brunette..." When we see Neo in the car, he looks like he always has.

But I still don't understand the nature of the connection between Neo's mind and the Source. Just psychic powers, or something? Or something like "he just friggin' is". I guess that would be good enough.

i think he jus figgin is. i understand that wireless connectivity should be extremely prominent in the matrix movies, seein how it's getting to be more widely used now, however, it seems like only some things were ever wireless in the movies, and even those were more radio frequencies, (sentinels, radios) so having transmitters inside humans would seem weird, and if it was only "the one" who got it, then it would be easier to identify the one outside the matrix. as for his RSI, maybe the physical appearance didnt change, but something in his mind did, and that made it mess up the way the computer saw him...

Sum1butno1> No, it’s just not “friggin is.”
20 years ago ALL telephones were connected by a cable to a socket in the wall. Until someone came along with wireless telephones, and made the electronics so small, it could fit into one of those now matchstick box sized gizmos. Now I’m able to talk to friends on the other side of the world simply holding a small device that has now wire connected to it.

When Neo became The One think of it as him “downloading” a very special program into his RSI-program. One that gives him super-user access to the Matrix program. This “very special program” was the anomaly.
Now how does it work? Really? How is Neo able to do some of the things he can do? The anomaly makes it possible for Neo to move faster, dodge bullets, beat agents, and fly (among things). Why? Because the anomaly has access to the very Source of the actual Matrix program. And how does it have that? Wireless connection.
Now – when Neo is unplugged what happens to the anomaly-program? His RSI is retrieved from the Matrix and so is the anomaly (Just like Smith overwrote Bane’s RSI and downloaded himself into Banes body).
The anomaly basically integrates itself into Neo’s electrochemical brain-signals. Neo wasn’t aware of this until the end of M2 – that the anomaly was constantly in contact with the Source, whether he – Neo – was in the Matrix or not.

Realworlddreams> But the system DOES recognise Neo outside the Matrix through the anomaly. Remember that transparent glowing sentinel shooting through Neo, when he and Trinity flew towards 01?
A “black ice” signal send directly to Neo’s brain THROUGH the anomaly-Source connection.

I need a computer expert! How can a program become invisible? The anomaly is invisible, isn't it?

um...something running in the backround (aka doing its job) is invisible, whereas something causing problems is noticable by the problems its causing...
i think thats one way of looking at it.

so does everybody else appear as if a ghost, an alien or a werewolf..? the architect also stated that neo was the eventuality of an anomaly...

by dictionary.com...

anomaly

1. a deviation or departure from the normal or common order, form, or rule.
2. one that is peculiar, irregular, abnormal, or is difficult to classify

so within the matrix, neo should be visible one way or another... but this time, link was unable to... WHY???

📖 errr....i agree ✅

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Interesting topic, never had given it much thought. Perhaps it's from the whole balancing act as described by the Oracle, about how the Architect needs to balance the equation out.... and thus Neo's code is somehow cancelled out by this balance? That's my more solid theory, but I also think it could be the Oracle doing something to Neo in order for him to go to her, since it's the "last time" he'll see her. "Programs hacking programs." What d'ya think, Omega?

The Train Station and the Matrix are two different "Systems" or whatever they are called. The Matrix is monitored by the humans, and Neo has his anomoly powers in the MATRIX. In the Train Station, thats a different "system" so the rebel's couldnt find him in the Matrix because he wasnt IN THE MATRX! That's also why the Trainman beat the shit outta Neo, because Neo's abilities were not avaible in the Train Station, because it wasnt the Matrix.

True...

Anyway after Neo's rescue from Mobil Ave, he still not seen by Link in the Matrix...(remember that limousine scene with Morpheus and Trin)

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As One Himself says: The question is not why Link and co. couldn’t find Neo on Mobil Ave. We all know that was a subsystem, completely different than the Matrix itself.

This question deals with when Neo, Trin, Seraoh and Morph drives to visit the Oracle. And Link tells Morpheus that he cannot “see” Neo in the car.

Jkozzy> Welcome back 😄
The “balancing act.” But what exactly should be “balanced” so that the end-result it: Neo cannot be seen by Link?

Could it be because Neo VISITED Mobil Avenue? Remember, that’s a place for programs to go, when THEY want to go into exile inside the actual Matrix. Perhaps that subsystem (Mobil Ave) somehow cloaks the programming-code so that the system cannot find the exiles (and hence the reason Neo’s not in his usual outfit)?
So that Link could not see Neo in the Cadillac had nothing to do with Neo as Neo, but to do with the fact that he passed Mobil Avenue?

^ i was about to say the same thing... but why was trinity visible to link? she just got back to mobil ave too, right? it could be the fact that neo's full potential was then recognized. he could disable sentinels and detonate tow bombs just by thinking it and his wireless ability to jack in and out of the matrix-- well, we didn't really get to see the "out" part... maybe one of his newfound ability was to cloak himself (or auto-cloak when he jacks into the matrix) so that neither man or machine can see his code therefor compromising the machines ability to locate his exact--errr-- location, since he wouldn't actually need an operator due to his wireless ability.

Trinity was visible when they returned from Mobil Ave. And Morpheus too then asked link if he could see Neo or not.

Sum1butno1 is right, Link saw someone in the car but could not recognise it as Neo, suggesting that Neo's code was somehow different than before, no doubt because of the unconventional way Neo had connected to the matrix.

But infact Link could not recognise Smith either, it was Morpheus who identified him as Smith to which Link replied "well whoever it is he's not reading like an agent".

Originally posted by The Alpha
Trinity was visible when they returned from Mobil Ave. And Morpheus too then asked link if he could see Neo or not.

we know morpheus was visible. there is no reason for him not to, he did NOT go to mobil ave. but trinity went there herslef to retrieve neo. the question is, if neo's code alteration was caused by the fact that he came form mobil ave., how come trinity was still reading the same to link?

Originally posted by Numo
Sum1butno1 is right, Link saw someone in the car but could not recognise it as Neo, suggesting that Neo's code was somehow different than before, no doubt because of the unconventional way Neo had connected to the matrix.

But infact Link could not recognise Smith either, it was Morpheus who identified him as Smith to which Link replied "well whoever it is he's not reading like an agent".

that is because smith was not an agent in reloaded. he's unplugged, a new man, so to speak, apparently free. there is no logic for him to be reading like an agent when he is not. morpheus probably recognized smith because he was still wearing the same shell... except for the dark suit. link hasn't seen smith prior to the burly brawl. he has no idea what smith looks like.

I'm going to try my best to answer this point but I just can't seem to wake up.

Personally I think Neo was without powers in both Mobil Ave and when Trinity brought him back into the matrix, which was why the Train Man floored him with just one punch and why he had to ride in the car with the rest of them.

I think that when Neo is connected to the matrix by "jacking in" the transfer of his consciousness or mind is a complete one, therefore he is the One, as he was in the Super Brawl.

However at the end of Reloaded he had done this without jacking in, thus causing only a partial connection or a weaker one to the matrix, thus causing him inturn to be weaker and thus easily defeatable.

after all that he has been through, flying would probably be the last thing in his mind. and when he was in the car, i belived he was already jacked in so they can jack him out old school style. and i think mobil ave is not part of the matrix. the trainman created it therefor in mobil ave he is god and neo is rendered powerless.

I dont get why if Morpheous could see that SMith was Smith in M2 and identified what was ahppening to Neo when they stuck their fist in him (and began 2 transform him)

why didnt the crew fo that one ship not bring back Malachi to the real world after seeing an Agent transform him?