I like Helter Skelter. If it wasn't for that song you wouldn't have had Iggy and the Stooges. If you didn't have Iggy and the Stooges you wouldn't have had the Sex Pistols. If it wasn't for the Sex Pistols you wouldn't have had The Smiths. If it wasn't for The Smiths you wouldn't have had The Stone Roses and if it wasn't for the Stone Roses you wouldn't have Oasis. God bless The Beatles.
OK they weren't great musicians (Harrison excluded) and some of the production on their songs was a bit ropey. Have you ever noticed how a lot of Beatles cover versions sound better than the original? Having said that though, in songwriting terms they were nothing short of geniuses and without them we'd still be listening to Bing Crosby.
The Beatles wrote amazing music. True.
But let's speak for ourselves when we say "Without them WE would be listening to Bing Crosby."
I wouldn't. I listen to the greatest bands on Earth, not because of The Beatles.
Yes they are overrated in the sense that alot of people believe antiquity is equal to talent. The older they get..........the older they get. They don't get better with age. If anything people should be realising that the biggest thing they did was give birth to boy bands.
-AC
im sick of people saying that they are the best band ever and that they are the only band they listen to. ya they WERE a great band, and the did have some good songs. but seriously, that was in the sixties, were in the 2000's, im sick of people that only listen to the beatles, pisses me off, theres better music to waste your time on than the beatles. buy on ozzfest cd rather than a yellow submarine cd.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriBut let's speak for ourselves when we say "Without them WE would be listening to Bing Crosby."
I wouldn't. I listen to the greatest bands on Earth, not because of The Beatles.
-AC
He's saying and I'm saying that without what the Beatles accomplished during their careers, the state of music wouldn't be where its at today. Hell, the greatest bands on Earth right now are in one way or another influenced by the Beatles. Its not an opinion, but fact when you hear that the Beatles are the most influential band of all time.
sorry about the real long post
Who cares if they listen to music from the 60's or 70s or any time in the past? Is it only cool to listen to albums that have just been released? If it's good music it's good music. As far as people just liking them because they are old, I still think they are more advanced in the knowledge they had in music and eagerness to try new things. Especially in today's music scene when most bands (even independent music) have boundaries that they are just not allopwed to cross because people are so afraid they'll bomb. A ton of people hate the White album, which I think is cool that a band is willing to put themselves out there on something that isn't safe for the sake of trying something new. Also a ton of people absolutely love the White album.
The first question I have for this thread is what do you mean by overrated? Do you mean the die hard Beatle fans, the ones that primarily only listen to the Beatles and worship Lennon-McCartney like Gods? Because those people are such a small minority.
I understand if their music isn't exactly your cup of tea. But they were brilliant, because they tried things that were so amazingly different from everything else in popular music and a ton of people dug it. And they didn't do it for one or two albums but for most of their albums.
Also, who cares if every member in a band is the greatest drummer, bassist, guitarist in the world. It's great when a musician can really play his instrument with the very best in the world, but if the songs aren't great the songs aren't great. They should be artists before strictly musicians. There's already enough mastaubatory guitar solos out there, there's nothing wrong with well constructed songs in which the instruments and vocals all compliment each other.
How many really great and new bands are there? I mean 99% of all bands are molded to fit a niche, they have a certain sound and do a certain thing that a thousand other bands do in a similar way (just not as well). Almost all of their music is very similar at the core. Most bands I like fit into that too. That's why truly unique mainstream bands like Led Zeppelin and the Beatles are so highly revered by so many people.
After all many artists are compared to the Beatles just based off of 3-4 songs the Beatles made while another artist is also Beatle-esque based off 4 or 5 other songs. They tried new stuff and it was quality.
And the statement on Bing Crosby is a good point but a little drastic. What I take the guy as saying, is that without the Beatles we would still have all completely uniform music and nothing really unique and different. I disagree with going that far, but without the Beatles things would be a lot different today in music.14
Originally posted by scabby mcgee
sorry about the real long postWho cares if they listen to music from the 60's or 70s or any time in the past? Is it only cool to listen to albums that have just been released? If it's good music it's good music. As far as people just liking them because they are old, I still think they are more advanced in the knowledge they had in music and eagerness to try new things. Especially in today's music scene when most bands (even independent music) have boundaries that they are just not allopwed to cross because people are so afraid they'll bomb. A ton of people hate the White album, which I think is cool that a band is willing to put themselves out there on something that isn't safe for the sake of trying something new. Also a ton of people absolutely love the White album.
The first question I have for this thread is what do you mean by overrated? Do you mean the die hard Beatle fans, the ones that primarily only listen to the Beatles and worship Lennon-McCartney like Gods? Because those people are such a small minority.
I understand if their music isn't exactly your cup of tea. But they were brilliant, because they tried things that were so amazingly different from everything else in popular music and a ton of people dug it. And they didn't do it for one or two albums but for most of their albums.
Also, who cares if every member in a band is the greatest drummer, bassist, guitarist in the world. It's great when a musician can really play his instrument with the very best in the world, but if the songs aren't great the songs aren't great. They should be artists before strictly musicians. There's already enough mastaubatory guitar solos out there, there's nothing wrong with well constructed songs in which the instruments and vocals all compliment each other.
How many really great and new bands are there? I mean 99% of all bands are molded to fit a niche, they have a certain sound and do a certain thing that a thousand other bands do in a similar way (just not as well). Almost all of their music is very similar at the core. Most bands I like fit into that too. That's why truly unique mainstream bands like Led Zeppelin and the Beatles are so highly revered by so many people.
After all many artists are compared to the Beatles just based off of 3-4 songs the Beatles made while another artist is also Beatle-esque based off 4 or 5 other songs. They tried new stuff and it was quality.
And the statement on Bing Crosby is a good point but a little drastic. What I take the guy as saying, is that without the Beatles we would still have all completely uniform music and nothing really unique and different. I disagree with going that far, but without the Beatles things would be a lot different today in music.14
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