Why did QGJ not fade away?

Started by yerssot2 pages

I'm still hoping that when you see Anakin in ghost (and you know the theory by then) you think:
good! all his bad things are forgiven! He's a Jedi again!

But that's ALREADY the point of that final shot.

Now, for the benefit of others, the website (official bit not infallible) and much of Lucasfilm (likewise) say that Vader DID disappear inside his suit. But we still have no firm evidence one way or another.

Indeed. My problem, if this is indeed correct, is that it's fairly stupid that they didn't show it. In the OT it didn't matter, but since QGJ did NOT disappear and was also burned, it gets weird. If this does prove correct I think a special special edition of ROTJ showing Anakin's disappearance is fairly crucial.

Meanwhile, I think part of the point of Anakin's ghost appearance at the end of ROTJ was to show that he HAD disappeared, after all.

But.... Qui-Gon might be back in EpIII.... 😈

That's still not necessarily a problem, remember.

we also have to remember something about qui-gon. he did not follow the jedi code and he is the only jedi we know of who beleives in the "living force." according to sw.com, all the other jedi beleive in the "unifying force," an energy field that a jedi can use. Qui-gon beleived the force was alive (the midi-chlorians), had a will of its own, and a jedi should listen to the will of the force. none of the other jedi doubted that the midi-chlorians EXIST, but supposedly beleive that they are non-conscious entities. if qui-gon reappears in Episode III, i beleive its possible it will not be as a ghost, but as something else, something more... alive. the reality could be that he was wiser than any of the jedi, yoda and ben included.

I'd be interested to see a canonical usage oif terms like 'Living' and 'Unifying' Force, but somehow I doubt it will get bogged down in it all.

Still, you never know.

in episode I, qui-gon makes a couple references to the "living force" to which obi-wan seems to be skeptical, yet respectful. i think "unifying" is a term the website uses to differ between qui-gon's view and that of the other jedi. i agree that it is unlikely that those terms will get any more useage in the EPII or III.

and i think the key point is "if YOU strike me down, i shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine," with the greatest emphasis on YOU.

I do not believe there is any such emphasis; none we are meant to take notice of. After all, you don't need Vader to strike you down in order to disappear.

Meanwhile, we have no evidence that Qui-Gon's use of the term 'Living Force' was something that oither Jedi disagreed about; it might just be a particular use of the Force he was talking about- he was, after all, urging Obi-Wan to concentrate on the here and now.

ok, i was a little vague. think about who dissapeared and who was present on EVERY occasion. then think about who that person is, in a grander scheme of things.