Questions from the amature

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Questions from the amature

I saw a midnight showing of ROTK and it was the most AMAZING movie experience of my life. But as I serious fan, during the movie I found myself plagued with a bunch of silly questions. And rather then look for it in the books, Id rather just ask you guys....the experts....

1) Legolas=part of the elves. Since I dont know much about the elves, are all of them endowed with special powers or something? Elrond and Galadriel are almost psychic ifI have to use a word, but why does Legolas almost appear to be human?

2) Pipe Weed. Are they all stoners? Whats the deal with that.

3) Wasn't the whole paths of dead thing alot more involved in the book, along with the FRodo and Shelob scene?

4) Didnt the movie go way out of sequence with the novels? Because it keep distracting me.

5) Having nothing to do with the movies, WHY IS THE SILMARILION HARD TO READ. Too many confusing names and stuff. Ive tried hard to get going with it, but I stop since I dont know whats really going on or whos whos.

Thanks for help guys.

1. elves, especially the higehr elves, ahve sort of mental powers and often can read other's minds. That's why elrond and galadriel "talk" this way.
I don't agree that Legolas appears human. He has a very keen sense of who and what's around him, can see and hear extraordinarily, and fears nothing (except maybe the Balorg).

2. Pipe weed is a realative of tabacco if I understand the books correctly. It says something about it in the first book. I agree, they do all act as if it makes them stoned though in the movie (maybe that's why hobbits like to eat so much!)

3. Yes, it was.

4. Yes, it did. All 3 did.

5. I think you answered your own question here! Remembering names is hard anytime, especially when they keep changing and are in a bunch of different languages. But trust me, you'll understand the movies better once you read it. Just take your time.

1. Elves are a remarkable species, explaining elves in depth would take a very long time, I'm not the person to do that

2. Pipe weed was, as far as I know, just ment as good brand of tabacco, but in the 1970's a lot of teenagers and ppl in their twenties believed it indeed stood for Weed, Pot, Grass whatever....

3. Haven't seen it but most likely, in any movie that is build from a book it is like that, takes a lot less time, money and effort to show something in a book than it does in a movie.

4. Yes in all three, tho in The Fellowship it was about right
The reason they seriously changed the sequence in ROTK and TTT is because cutting the story in two or three parts like in the book doesn't work very well in movies (alteast not mainstream cinema) Personaly I like the movie sequence better than the book, but that's just me.

5. Silmarillion is very hard to read but certainly worth it, haven't finished it myself YET

well i would say read the damn book, but seeing as that is what fini will say when thiis thread is discovered il tell you all about the elves, well not al about them, because that would take up pages and pages, but il gove the basic info

there are the

fair elves: A name for the Vanyar, from the fair colour of their hair.

green elves: Lenwë was an Elf of the Telerin clan, who set out with the Great Journey of the Elves into the West. When his people found their path blocked by the Misty Mountains, he resolved to leave the Journey and instead led his followers south down the Vales of Anduin, and they became known as the Nandor. After many years, Lenwë's son Denethor set out westward once again, and led some part of the Nandor across the Misty Mountains and the Blue, settling at last in the Land of Seven Rivers beneath the Ered Luin; the land called Ossiriand.

Denethor and his followers did not have peace for long. Soon after his return to Middle-earth, before the Noldor had followed him, Morgoth loosed armies of orcs on King Thingol and his allies, Círdan in the west and Denethor in the east. Denethor's Nandor were ill-equipped for warfare, and suffered great hardship in that battle. Denethor himself was slain on Amon Ereb, though the Elves beat back the orcs at last. After that time many of Denethor's people left Ossiriand for the guarded forests of Doriath. Those few that remained took up a secretive existence, camouflaging themselves in green. From that time, they were known as the Green-elves, or Laiquendi in the Elvish tongue.

The hidden people of the Green-elves played little part in history after the First Battle of the Wars of Beleriand. Most significantly, they lent their aid to Beren and Dior (who dwelt on Tol Galen in the far south of their land). After the loss of their ancient ally Thingol at the hands of the Dwarves, they went with Beren to avenge him. Much later, after the deaths of Beren and Lúthien, one of their lords took up the Silmaril that Lúthien had borne, and brought it to Menegroth where Dior now dwelt.

After the end of the First Age, their fate is not clearly known. Much of their land survived the destruction of Beleriand, and as Lindon came under the rule of Gil-galad. Some at least seem to have removed to Eriador, as a note in the Unfinished Tales mentions Green-elves living on the shores of Lake Nenuial during the Second Age. After this, nothing is known of their fate.

the grey elves: The Sindar; those of the Teleri who remained in Beleriand when their kin travelled across the Great Sea.

the high elves: The Three Kindreds of the Elves who journeyed to Valinor; the Vanyar, the Noldor and those of the Teleri who did not remain in Beleriand. Of these, the Vanyar and Teleri remained there, but many of the Noldor returned to Middle-earth at the beginning of the First Age, and some of these remained at the time of the War of the Ring.

the light elves, (fair elves) :A name given to the Vanyar, the kindred of the Elves who came first to Valinor and dwelt long ages in the light of the Two Trees.

sea elves:A name of the Teleri, and especially those of that kin who came to Aman and dwelt at Alqualondë, for their love of the sea and reverence of Ulmo its lord.

silvan elves: The Silvan Elves dwelt in their twin woodland realms for many centuries, but in the Second Age the emerging power of Sauron began to drive them apart. Oropher was the ruler of the Elves who dwelt in the Greenwood

wood elves: The Silvan Elves who dwelt in the forests of Middle-earth, and especially the people ruled by Thranduil in the northern parts of Mirkwood.

WOW. thanks. and i have read the book-LOTR though-its impossible for me to get through the Silmarilion

the silmarillion is the best book ever written, it's a smooth read once you get past the first 50 pages.
but 98% of people who pick it up never finish it.

i'm proud to say i did.

i have that book, but ive only read like the first couple pages.... i guess i need to read it.

I started reading it for about a year ago, then gave it op because the beging was to boring, then pickt it op 3 mounths ago stoped after the first 20 pages , but then about 2 weeks ago I tought, I have to read it before ROTK, finished it a week later🙂

wow, thats cool

Don't be afraid of stop to read Silmarillion coz you will read it at the right time.

I begin to read it with 13 years old - 20 years ago - and I stopped at the first pages of the Valaquenta, trying to memorize all names of Valar and Maiar. I only restart reading it one year after with 14 and then I coudl not stop anymore 🙂
Now It is my favorite book of ever.