The extended rotk will be 4 hours and 50 minutes long.
It will feature
Spoiler:
The death of Saruman
Houses of Healing
The romance between Faramir and Eown (which is only hinted at, at the very end).The mouth of Sauron
Confrontation between the Witch-king and Gandalf
And Merry pledging loyalty to Theoden
And Eomer grieving at Theodens death
I'm sorry, but anyone moaning at rotk just doesn't know how to have one hell of a great time in a cinema. We're talking movie-making history! 😄
This argument has been had many times on the board before so I waill not go through the motions again but I will state my basic position- I hated the Scouring in the Book, and it would have been appalling on film as it completely breaks the flow of the narrative. Removing it was very wise, includoing it would have made for a much worse film.
Incidentally, some of the Scouring was seen in the Mirror of Galadriel in the first film.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
This argument has been had many times on the board before so I waill not go through the motions again but I will state my basic position- I hated the Scouring in the Book, and it would have been appalling on film as it completely breaks the flow of the narrative. Removing it was very wise, includoing it would have made for a much worse film.Incidentally, some of the Scouring was seen in the Mirror of Galadriel in the first film.
I agree with you that the Scouring of the Shire had to be cut for the sake of not breaking down the film. Like a fellow of me said after the film (who didn't read the books) :
The film just had to stop right after mount Doom, of after Gandalf came to rescue to Frodo and Sam with the Eagles.From a film view, you just cannot include every (brilliant) thing from the books, you just cannot. These films are made for everyone, not just for the diehardfans, and it still are FILMS, not books, you have to follow some rules to make a good film, who are different for making a good book !!!
like in the book the story of Frodo and Sam is totally seperated from the adventures of the rest of the fellowship. Why, because that's is not bad in a book. Imagine if 'The Two Towers' was kinda cut in two with also the two storylines completely seperated? Would that be a good film? (After seeing FotR, I was wondering how PJ was going to glue part 1&2 of TT together )
Originally posted by Ushgarak
Removing it was very wise, includoing it would have made for a much worse film.Incidentally, some of the Scouring was seen in the Mirror of Galadriel in the first film.
Originally posted by Cowboyography
PJ said no more Tolkien for him, his next project......... WOOHOO get this a new KING KONG!!!!!!!!!!!!
(Gimli-wise : )
Cheers m-ate
Clockwork
The scouring was an unnecessary part of the book and would have made the endings impossible. Would you rather have the scouring or all the other endings which, IMO, were necessary? It just didn't work on film, and I understand and respect that.
Some cuts that sucked, however, mostly from the list just given (haven't seen RotK yet):
Spoiler:
The death of Saruman
The choices of Master Samwise -Both of these should have been in the TT movie instead of the RotK, especially Saruman, if his death was an ending for TT instead of a beginning for RotK to paraphraze PJ. If that's the case, why wasn't it in the TT?! For all the endings to RotK, or so I hear, the TT ended rather abrubtly and nowhere near accurate to the book. Of all the decisions PJ made this one I understand little.
Houses of Healing/The romance between Faramir and Eowyn (which is only hinted at, at the very end) - this is almost necessary, because they are both major characters that need closure. While an in-depth thing isn't necessary, they should have at least done at least a 5 minute segment. It also gives Aragorn much needed screen time and character and plot development.
The mouth of Sauron -
Would have been nice, don't see why he was cut, but although I don't understand the reasons not the biggest deal.
Confrontation between the Witch-king and Gandalf -
What the hell were they thinking?!?! It would have taken a whole minute and a half.
And Merry pledging loyalty to Theoden -
Once again, what the hell were they thinking?! A critical moment, and the love of Merry and Theoden is great.
And Eomer grieving at Theodens death -
Why would they cut that? That just makes no sense to me.
At least they'll be on the EE DVD, but that can't be a constant excuse. Most of the things mentioned here are not big at all (except for the house of healing/Faramir and Eowyn, and that's OK to be saved for the EE DVD.)
I've always been so much more attached to the extended DVDs than the regular ones because while the theatrical releases are really good, the extended ones are the best. They just have all the nice little details that aren't really necessary but just add a special something. I'm already excited about the extended RotK. It's gonna be a long wait.
Long, but great. And a long way away...but when it comes out my friends and I are going to have a really long extended edition LotR movie marathon.
One thing that I was really happy about was that Arwen wasn't nearly as built up as I thought it would be. Elrond was actually the more annoying one. That one scene where she came back to Rivendell was pretty bad I think (although the shot where Arwen is riding over the bridge is really pretty). It's all good though.
i have no time to read all your posts, but as for the complaint about the scouring of the shire, it was great in the books and i loved it, but for any nontolkien reader, it would be boring and anticlimactic...and dont complain about much else because it will most likely be in the EE...the only thing that bugged me was saruman...