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@Ambarturion: True, true 🙁 he often describes them how scaring they are but little more

Originally posted by sauron
7. Adunaphel, The Quiet

^^the quiet title went out the window when she became a nazgul i suppose "SCREEEEECH"^^

LoL 😛 😛

Adûnaphel, my fav Nazgûl besides theWitchking 😍

Originally posted by kalantiaw
wasn't it mentioned in the beginning of the fellowship "...and 9 rings were given to the race of men, who above all wanted power"... or some of that sort... so they did have mortal bodies... i think even after they fell under the power of sauron, they had mortal bodies... when isildur cut the ring of power from sauron's hand, they (nazgul) vanished into the shadows with him... when he reappeared after a thousand years or so, the ringwraiths appeared with him...

Of course they had bodies, being Lords of Men in the beginning

But when they became undead they might have lost that together with their lives

further proof of them having no bodies is the statement "they spread fear wherever they go, even if unclad and invisible"

when they were kings of men, their rings took over them because of the one, and they did saurons will, whatever the task...and price. when sauron was defeated they retired into shadow, but because the one ring was still in existance they were still bound to it, and did not die fully, instead they became wraiths neither living nor dead, their bodys forsaken they walk the earth the embodiment of terror....still waiting their masters call

Originally posted by sauron
when they were kings of men, their rings took over them because of the one, and they did saurons will, whatever the task...and price. when sauron was defeated they retired into shadow, but because the one ring was still in existance they were still bound to it, and did not die fully, instead they became wraiths neither living nor dead, their bodys forsaken they walk the earth the embodiment of terror....still waiting their masters call

Originally posted by sauron
further proof of them having no bodies is the statement "they spread fear wherever they go, even if unclad and invisible"

thats the third bloody time i have been put down, losing my touch

Originally posted by FreddieFreeload
That only indicates that they spread fear even if their bodies cannot be seen, and their not wearing any robes (in fact they would be invisible if they didn't wear those robes). Merry's sword hit the Witch Kings in his knee, that should indicate that he did have one.

I have the strange vision of them having no bodies but being fear and terror kept together by their caps; and if they're hidden in these black clothes, the fear is hidden too, and they can move less noticed than without clothes ( 😄 ) - Tolkien writes them when describing their crossing the river Anduin.

But actually I don't really care if they have bodies or not, independant from that they still remain my cool nazgûlies 😍

Poor Dark Lord 😛

poor me 🙁

oh well if i was wrong then thank you freddie now i know....although i do believe they are fear itself now, as bodys dont really stay fully intact after 1000 odd years do they, (example, gollum <only 500)

😛 😛

Ooooh poor Sauron *hugs*

Wrong? Why wrong?

And, by the way, did I ever mention I love Witchy? 😍

Originally posted by sauron
poor me 🙁

oh well if i was wrong then thank you freddie now i know....although i do believe they are fear itself now, as bodys dont really stay fully intact after 1000 odd years do they, (example, gollum <only 500)

With the bodies having been decaying for a long time, that's probably the reason the Ringwraiths perish when the one ring is destroyed. Their own rings loose their power (as the elven rings do), and they (their rings) can no longer hold their very old bodies intact, as they have been used for far beyond what is "guaranteed". Sorta like instant decomposition. Bilbo also aged after the ring was given to Frodo, he "speed up his ageing" to "cath up" with the state that his body was supposed to have? Atleast his body "decayed" more than it should in the seventeen years that wen't on before he met Gandalf again.

With the bodies having been decaying for a long time, that's probably the reason the Ringwraiths perish when the one ring is destroyed

thats right, remember gollum on mt doom (book only)

please let us go, once the precious is destroyed we will turn to ashes.....ASHES *sob* *SOB*

poor smeagol, it was all gollums fault....mostly....smeagol was just like a decieved child, and gollum the mentally abusive parent

Bilbo also aged after the ring was given to Frodo, he "speed up his ageing" to "cath up" with the state that his body was supposed to have? Atleast his body "decayed" more than it should in the seventeen years that wen't on before he met Gandalf again.

^^theres a fault in the movie, in those seventeen years he ages from what he is at his party to the old but not too bad looking bilbo at rivendell.... then in the ONE year the quest took up he ages from rivendell bilbo into oh my god that is hideous grey havens bilbo

Originally posted by sauron
theres a fault in the movie, in those seventeen years he ages from what he is at his party to the old but not too bad looking bilbo at rivendell.... then in the ONE year the quest took up he ages from rivendell bilbo into oh my god that is hideous grey havens bilbo

yeah but still, seems a bit thing to get wrong, i mean some of the detail in fotr is amzing, like they remembered to have sam grab frodods hand in rivendell bed

i finally watched return of the king yesterday!!! 😱

Originally posted by sauron
...like they remembered to have sam grab frodods hand in rivendell bed

Right... in RoTK there were also many details from the book, fewer in TT.

✅ and they h ad alot of parts notin the book where they could've had more from the book, like where sam puts on the ring, i would have liked to see that

Yes, definitely... but what I missed most were the houses of healing and the dark athmosphere that shouldve been in the paths of the dead

and the witchking talking to gandalf, and i can't belive they cut out the mouth of sauron 🙁

Oh yes 🙁 🙁 at least he'll be on the EE.

yeah, mouth of sauron very cool