Frightening facts about the world we live in.

Your all right about the "big side effect of Capatalim is the side effect from the rich to poor. but you all make it sounded like its the rich persons fault. Not true. Should we start telling people how rich they should be? why should someone get punished for doing a good job? Should we tell Bill Gates that he is to smart and has done to good of a job? NO we shouldin't. Its the poor persons fault there poor. If you no how to save money and when to spend money it is not very difficult to get rich (your at least financially secure by the time your 50) the big problom is they think we should all be book smart when losts of us just need to be money smart.

Saying it's someone fault is harsh. No one can predict the outcome of things, buying the wrong stocks can make you bankrupt and poor, a terrible accident can do the same, even a law suit. How is it anyones fault?? The point is there should be more rich people, and countries even willing to give some of what they have to others who have very little, or in some cases nothing!

Your Right Siver Maybe it is harsh to say its there fault that there poor but the thing is, is most poor people (not all) have put them selves in there position. EX. spending all there money on drugs, alcohol, or beating it all away. I think they should help them selves not ask for everyone else's help.

As for the richest countrys giving money to the poor countries you get two major problems (at least for the U.S.) The US gave the second most in foreign aid last year (right behind Japan) but we mayed way more money then all the other country's we where twenty-second in % comparing are GDP (national wealth) to how much money we gave. (I think Sweden was the heights) I understand that we could give way more but how much is two much. why try to make money and work if America is going to give you free money?....Another problem is who do you give it to? we sent 12.5 billion in aid to Israel. If we stopped wodint Israel eventually become a there'd-world country again?...and another problem with Africa is if you give money to one country all the rest want some. Where do we stop? Do we send all are money and become a There'd-world country are selves and are forced to beg the all might EU for money? that dosint sound like a good idea to me.

The best way to help thire'd-world countrys is to help them help themselves. tell them we will send financial advisers budget mangers and wherever else's they need to jump start there economy BUT NO MONEY. If we give them free money them, and all there naders just want more and it never ends.

The problem with foreign aid is that there is no real way to monitor and control the way the money is spent. For example i think it was Chad(not 100% sure but it was one of the north african countries) that we gave foreign aid money to and the government instead of spending it on it's people used the money for their own benefit

Foreign aid does jack squat if the government you give it to doesn't know how to use it. Mainy governments won't put in enough funds for big economy boosters such as drilling for oil and building roads because they're either too greedy or don't have the financial know how on how on what to use the money on.

Originally posted by silver_tears
You are rich by destroying other countries and taking over 🙄

yep damn straight 🙂

Originally posted by JRatT12
most poor people (not all) have put them selves in there position.
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I think they should help them selves not ask for everyone else's help.

Originally posted by JRatT12
why try to make money and work if America is going to give you free money?.....

Originally posted by JRatT12
Another problem is who do you give it to? we sent 12.5 billion in aid to Israel. If we stopped wodint Israel eventually become a there'd-world country again?

Originally posted by JRatT12
...and another problem with Africa is if you give money to one country all the rest want some. Where do we stop? Do we send all are money and become a There'd-world country are selves and are forced to beg the all might EU for money? that dosint sound like a good idea to me.

Originally posted by JRatT12
The best way to help thire'd-world countrys is to help them help themselves. tell them we will send financial advisers budget mangers and wherever else's they need to jump start there economy BUT NO MONEY. If we give them free money them, and all there naders just want more and it never ends.

Africa is a mess because of their horrible leaders. I'm tired of the blaming Whitey game. South Africa was better financially when it was in White hands now that they rule it is the rape capital of the world. Stop feeling guilty for a people that keeps screwing up is not our fault. Imperialism ended long ago.

you forget one thing vader,
it IS the whitey's their fault that africa is a mess!

how did those lands got created? not by themselves, but why the europeans who just said "from there to there, that's yours, the rest is mine" and with just deviding it without thinking of the local tribes who are at war with eachother and such, they created countries full of fighting tribes
if they let africa alone or at least devided it in countries where people could stand eachother, africa wouldn't be such a big mess

Originally posted by yerssot

their

If you're not White I'm not surprised you blame everything a on Whitey. Different "tribes" and ethnicities live in the USA without problem. The wars, hunger and all the other troubles are THEIR OWN GOD-DAMN FAULT. Africa is terribly rich in resources yet they haven't been able to built anything worthwhile, not a society, not a civilization.

Do a search on Robert Mugabe, this should clear things for you.

I did not own slaves, I did not oppress this people, I did not steal from , I haven't harm them in anyway. I'M NOT GUILTY.

Vader, you gotta realize....Humans need someone to point the finger at. 20 years ago it was the Soviet Union. 60 years ago it was Germany. And on and on through history. The U.S. is the new evil empire, when they have fallen, the people will find the next group to blame for the troubles of the world. That is the way of things.

I am caucasian, I just wrote "their" to show the gap between me and them.
Can you please tell me what you understand with "tribes" cause the tribe I mentioned I doubt they exist in the USA.
you know, africa was mostly rich in resources and the europeans took most of it away, without paying them or give something in return.

Your right Lames.s everyone needs someone to blame for there problems and i guess its easiest to blame the most wealth country instead of yourselves.....I kind of hop the E.U. gets really strong so the hole world can go back to hating the Europeans instead of us over hear. I think it would be nice if when a country has a problems instead of coming to the U.S for help we can just put are feet up and say "hey go talk to the E.U. we no longer have any opinions" Damn that would be so great i can see it now we will close are boards pull all are troupes out off ever country there in, call all the nave home and spend all that money on are people and make the E.U. spend all there money and put there people in harms way. And during all this all us Americans can grab a beer and see how the world turns out from the safety of are T.V's

Ok, this is becoming a seriously political thread, so back pedal, folks.

YOu guys...i just kind of wanted to show you those statistic beause i came accross them in my revision...🙁

Im sorry...

it's not your fault lil 🙂
it's more of mine, cause I reacted on a post of JRat

No need for apologies, lil you were right. The amount of debt is so insignificant it probably wouldnt be missed....by most countries let alone the US.

I want all of you who read this thread to put the words "global peak oil production" into a search engine. To "lil bitchines": Forgiving those debts would be a nice start to try and heal the world, but it may be too little and it might be too late. The time has come to do what all people have done throughout history when a huge empire is about to fall...You get some good people together and hide.

😑 Woah, old thread!

I understand that, but its still very rightening, adn i suppose we should feel lucky...all of us, because we are part of the lucky 25% if not less of the richest people in the world.

Sorry about the old thread...but really cool, check it out. "Global peak oil production". It'll tell you that this civilization is going to fall, just like Rome. There's a good chance it'll happen in our lifetime.

This civilization has the highest energy throughput per capita in history. It's like an addiction. That's why all of the technological advances...to keep the energy flowing. The steam engine was invented to pump water out of coal mines. The coal was needed because there was no more wood to burn in Europe, c.1600.

Oil made things go even faster... So fast that we're going to use up all of the cheap oil really quick. When oil gets expensive (maybe really soon), it's possible the whole world economy will recede or collapse. Because the whole damned thing is based on oil. If the price of oil goes up, the price of EVERYTHING will go up.

It's why there's three wars taking place in the mideast. That this civilization, more than any other in the past, is destroying its own future.

In the words of an Apache I know, "The white man is eating his grandchildren to feed his children." It's unsustainable, it can't last.

This thread, it goes deep...

What would you do if you lived in Rome in like, 200AD, knowing it was on the verge of colllapse?

PS. I like your posts

Very true. On the other hand, if we manage to come up with an alternate form of power, we may be saved.