The Official Naruto series Thread

It's unlikely it's more dense than the others, so I doubt Pein is down too.

The Pein against Konohamaru will probably just be summoned away soon anyway hurt or not. Though not sure how you can hurt a dead body. Unless Pein can't move a broken body.

I assume there's a damage threshold for Pein resurrecting his bodies since he never tried to get the one Jiraiya killed away from him to reanimate it, and the Asura body was presumably damaged beyond repair since the Deva Pein didn't revive it aafter fighting Kakashi.

if Konohamaru is using shadow clones to make rasengan, and he just used up three, shouldn't he be exhausted and unable to fight back if Pein is still alive??

if it turns out that he has the same chakra capacity as Naruto as well, then... that's a weak story

Not really. Sarutobi was able to fight after using two shadow clones and he was old, and very weak on stamina so Konohamaru is bound to have better stamina even though he's weaker because he's young. He's just used up like 2/3rds of his chakra though. Konohamaru won't even get a second chance anyway if Pein isn't beaten. Unless Pein is really dumb enough to fall for it twice.

Using shadow clones doesn't suddenly make you unable to fight anymore. They just use up a lot of chakra.

well still,

he's only got 1/3 of his chakra left and he's lost the element of surprise

He'd still be able to try and fight back. If he somehow beats Pein again without Pein stopping and leaving since he knows where Naruto is..Either Pein is an idiot or Konohamaru needs to be the next Hokage.

in the anime, why does Naruto have fox-shaped eyes but they're not red?

I'm guessing he's only using enough chakra from the nine tails to not change any other characteristics other than his eye pupils. Not sure though.

maybe... he's got a cool Sephiroth thing goin' on 😛

anyway, remember that thing Naruto was doing in secret during his sage training?? maybe he's completing the wind rasenshuriken so it doesn't hurt himself

so he's gonna make a clone sit and gather energy while he moves and transforms, remember that frog dude said that if a clone turned into a frog statue, the real him would too, so i'm guessing that's how it's gonna work

But if it's Rasengan Shuriken it doesn't explain the other two times a move was mentioned by Jiraiya. One Jiraiya telling Naruto not to do, and the other Jiraiya telling the frog scroll about a jutsu that Naruto hasn't completed. And Naruto's keeping the move a secret also.

Hmm, what would be the point of keeping it secret?

I wonder...

lol, So this weeks chapter might have no action in since Pain knows where Naruto is, I bet he will just teleport himself out of the village now with his summoning body. I wonder what he will do with Asura Pain?

Originally posted by Stealth
Hmm, what would be the point of keeping it secret?

I wonder...

hmm...

so maybe it's not the Rasenshuriken

whatever it is, it's quiet enough to not wake any of the frogs, and i don't think he's using the kyuubi's chakra or else the frogs would sense the evil aura and awaken

guess we'll just have to wait and see

Originally posted by Kento
But if it's Rasengan Shuriken it doesn't explain the other two times a move was mentioned by Jiraiya. One Jiraiya telling Naruto not to do, and the other Jiraiya telling the frog scroll about a jutsu that Naruto hasn't completed. And Naruto's keeping the move a secret also.

umm...

can you post scans of when Jiraiya said those things, i can't remember clearly

Ch 251 pg 15. Jiraiya tells him not to use that jutsu. And going Kyuubi isn't exactly a jutsu.

Then ch 370 pg 10 when he's talking to the scroll he says something about Minato wanting Naruto to complete that jutsu. And that is in quotations.

And no I didn't remember it off the top of my head..I had to look it up.

Originally posted by Kento
Ch 251 pg 15. Jiraiya tells him not to use that jutsu. And going Kyuubi isn't exactly a jutsu.

Then ch 370 pg 10 when he's talking to the scroll he says something about Minato wanting Naruto to complete that jutsu. And that is in quotations.

And no I didn't remember it off the top of my head..I had to look it up.

You're lucky you qualified that last part, or else....

lol

But, yes, Kents is right.

Didn't it show that Naruto cut the mountain in half?

I did it specially for you so you wouldn't come in here threatning me again. lol

I believe it was trees wasn't it?

thanks,

i'll see if i can narrow it down then 📖

alrighty then,

it seems both times, Jiraiya is refering to the kyuubi

in 251, he tells Naruto to not loose control, and that being hot-headed is a bad habit

in 370, it shows a flashback of when Naruto injured him while going four-tails, then he mentions "that" technique, and frog scroll, again, refers to four-tails Naruto

so it must be about keeping the kyuubi under control or something like that

But going Kyuubi isn't a jutsu. He tells him not to loose his head because he'll go Kyuubi sure but I think the jutsu he refers to is something else. That's why he tells Naruto to come to him. Jiraiya told Kakashi about four-tails, and Naruto willingly goes Kyuubi. And Kakashi was given something to surpress Kyuubi's chakra if it happened.

As for the frog scroll one. Again Kyuubi really isn't a jutsu that can be completed. He could master Kyuubi maybe and use all the tails. But again not a jutsu at all.

And Naruto gets all excited about completing a jutsu, but then hides it from the old frog. Then the jutsu we see that's already been used doesn't have the effect like a rasengan at all.

I think the jutsu needs more chakra than Naruto can use himself, and so it involved using Kyuubi and Naruto goes all crazy when Kyuubi is unleashed. That's why he has to be in Sage Mode to practice the jutsu also since it give him more power.

Though maybe he learned to throw Rasen Shuriken. *shrugs* We'll find out soon enough I guess.