The Official Naruto series Thread

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Originally posted by Kento
Yea, but most of her fight against Sasori was done with Chiyo using her as a puppet. Without Chiyo she'd never have been able to dodge half that stuff. But yea she did one-shot a summon. That was impressive I do admit. And her healing abilities are second to only Tsunade, but pretty much anybody not Naruto or Sasuke has become completely useless now it seems.
not when chiyo did the performance of ten jutsu, all her fingers were occupied with her high-grade puppets.

that's when sakura showed off her best moves, and took out sasori's main body.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
not when chiyo did the performance of ten jutsu, all her fingers were occupied with her high-grade puppets.

that's when sakura showed off her best moves, and took out sasori's main body.

In the anime, in the manga it hardly shows her do anything at all. Sure you know she's fighting but even the tiny bits it does show aren't impressive.

Originally posted by Kento
Yea, but most of her fight against Sasori was done with Chiyo using her as a puppet. Without Chiyo she'd never have been able to dodge half that stuff.

thats only half true. chiyo remarked that due to low chakra and her busted arm she could only control sakura with one string meaning that sakura would have to rely on her own reflexes for the most part. chiyo only had complete control over sakuras body for the first 25% of the match or so. also the strings dont really seem to manipulate speed so sakura had to use her own speed as well.

in addition that antitode that she made for the poison was a feat that sasori said was compeltely impossible to do even for him and he invented the poison. so shes a pretty talented herbalist as well.

The strings can manipulate reflex speed. At the start of the fight Chiyo was making Sakura dodge those needles while she herself was dodging. Perhaps not fighting speed, but Sakura never really showed impressive fighting speed though in that fight she does do some impressive things yes. The anidote, the getting in front of Chiyo before she's stabbed, knocking the big block of iron sand away, blowing herself up to get out of the poison smoke, and not being impaled even though she was scratched when the iron sand spikes out, which was her own speed I believe. And at least she tried to attack Sasuke when they seen each other again even if it was futile.

Originally posted by Kento
In the anime, in the manga it hardly shows her do anything at all. Sure you know she's fighting but even the tiny bits it does show aren't impressive.
well yeah, the anime filled in the gap. in real time, chiyo letting sakura loose (to fight the 100 puppets) and sakura taking out sasori was quite a while, she was obviously handling herself long before chiyo gave her the sealing orb thing, and all the while not getting scratched up too bad.

what!? there is one sequence of sakura performing some pretty decent taijutsu on several puppets.

YouTube video 0:43 -> 0:49

the girl can fight man.

The manga shows her punching a few, never shows her do anything else except jump over the blades.

I've actually watched that fight finally. And yes, she does some cool things. But the anime does change up, and extend fight scenes making them sometimes a whole lot cooler. Just look at the Naruto/Sasuke fights. The anime adds so much more to the VotE and the rooftop battle. And the anime has Sasuke fight Temari while going after Gaara.

because the manga is used as a storyboard for the anime, i wouldn't call her fight scene filler since it's logical that she fought well enough to survive the puppets like she did, all they did was show it in motion.

Unlike DBZ, I'm inclined to take the anime for a grain of salt, if there is a contradiction to be found against the manga.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
because the manga is used as a storyboard for the anime, i wouldn't call her fight scene filler since it's logical that she fought well enough to survive the puppets like she did, all they did was show it in motion.
Perhaps they aren't, perhaps they are. She still needs a cool fight she can call her own besides her fight against Ino.

she is a support character after all, kunoichi are taught medical techniques to compensate for their stronger teammates.

however, tsunade's style uses chackra control to beef up her taijutsu effectiveness, ino never was taught that stuff at all, apart from her clan's senjutsu shit, a fight with sakara now would be suicide. sakura's probably the most overall usefull kunoichi in the manga at the moment imo.

she's probably beat choji with 1-2 punches.

Eh depends. If Chouji used his pills he'd probably be able to win because he actually has shown speed and some crazy strength. But normal Chouji isn't a big threat.

And eh I don't think she's the most useful. Not in an actual big fight. Maybe in war times...

Sakura is among the most useful, the only one better is Tsunade, since she's basically an older, more powerful Sakura.

Compared to Ino sure, Hinata possibly, and Shizune maybe. But how is she more useful than the kunoichi that are actual fighters? Medical Ninja's are best suited for war time or invasions not the fights they are doing now that are three on three or three on one and stuff...discounting the fact that Sasori and Killer Bee decided to stop fighting while the person or people were healed.

Shizune has done nothing but get her ass kicked by Kabuto. Who had trouble with PTS Naruto. Even though I am a Hinate fanboy, I must reluctantly admit that she has nothing on Sakura.

Tenten wasn't able to do shit in the 4 on 1 battle with a 30% chakra Kisame.

Ino is just trash.

Temari is the only other notable one, but she has nothing to help her against Sakura's impressive reflexes and physical might.

Barring them...Who else is left? I guess that black girl is better since she did kind of beat her if I remember right, but who else? Her showing against Sasori cemented her as among the strongest Kunoichi in the show, Tsunade is the only one clearly superior, MAYBE Kurunei with her Genjutsu(although Sakura has always had excellent resistance against this), and Chiyo was probably more powerful, but she's dead now. Konan should logically be more powerful but...She has nothing to prove it. Sakura is the third strongest Kunoichi in the series based on evidence.

Neji nor Lee were able to do anything against Kisame. Not fair really to use that, but TenTen has nothing so yea.

Temari is smarter, is faster, and has long range ninjutsu, and just as good taijutsu.

Hinata's only real problem in lack of confidence not skill that's why she's lower.

There's Anko.

Out of Konoha I'd say she's third but more like fifth out of them all. But that's because TenTen, Kurenai, and Konan have no feats to really say about them. All Kurenai has is being owned by Itachi.

Originally posted by Kento
Neji nor Lee were able to do anything against Kisame. Not fair really to use that, but TenTen has nothing so yea.

Temari is smarter, is faster, and has long range ninjutsu, and just as good taijutsu.

Hinata's only real problem in lack of confidence not skill that's why she's lower.

There's Anko.

Out of Konoha I'd say she's third but more like fifth out of them all. But that's because TenTen, Kurenai, and Konan have no feats to really say about them. All Kurenai has is being owned by Itachi.

1. Neji got one shot in if I remember correctly.

2. Hahaha...No. Temari is not faster. Not by any stretch of the term. Her reacting to Tayuya's sound attacks was obvious PIS, considering speedsters like Rock Lee, who is obviously faster than Temari, are not capable of reacting to soundspeed attacks. Her long range ninjutsu is her only advantage, and no, her Taijutsu is not just as good, what Taijutsu feats does she have that are anywhere near Sakura's level? 😐

3. Obviously.

4. Who has done nothing but be toyed with by Orochimaru.

5. Oh? Why?

Originally posted by NemeBro
1. Neji got one shot in if I remember correctly.

2. Hahaha...No. Temari is not faster. Not by any stretch of the term. Her reacting to Tayuya's sound attacks was obvious PIS, considering speedsters like Rock Lee, who is obviously faster than Temari, are not capable of reacting to soundspeed attacks. Her long range ninjutsu is her only advantage, and no, her Taijutsu is not just as good, what Taijutsu feats does she have that are anywhere near Sakura's level? 😐

3. Obviously.

4. Who has done nothing but be toyed with by Orochimaru.

5. Oh? Why?

That did nothing though..

I wasn't even talking about Tayuya fight. I was talking about when she fought TenTen. She was able to use her fan without them even realizing what she did. And to block the multitudes of summoned weapons that were coming at her, and in such a short distance. Sakura doesn't have any great taijutsu skills. She has super strength, and reflexes to dodge stuff but her fighting skills aren't that great. She isn't a taijutsu master or even close. She's a weaker Tsunade..who herself isn't anything special in taijutsu.

And knows forbidden jutsu, and was trained by Orochimaru. Sakura's lack of jutsu or any real fighting skill is what makes her worse.

Temari, Tsunade, and the two thunder kunoichi are either stronger, better fighters, or make up for their lack of fighting skills with ninjutsu. And are faster. Sakura doesn't have much speed compared to most, any offensive ninjutsu just healing, and no real fighting skills only relying on her super strength.

Originally posted by Kento
That did nothing though..

I wasn't even talking about Tayuya fight. I was talking about when she fought TenTen. She was able to use her fan without them even realizing what she did. And to block the multitudes of summoned weapons that were coming at her, and in such a short distance. Sakura doesn't have any great taijutsu skills. She has super strength, and reflexes to dodge stuff but her fighting skills aren't that great. She isn't a taijutsu master or even close. She's a weaker Tsunade..who herself isn't anything special in taijutsu.

And knows forbidden jutsu, and was trained by Orochimaru. Sakura's lack of jutsu or any real fighting skill is what makes her worse.

Temari, Tsunade, and the two thunder kunoichi are either stronger, better fighters, or make up for their lack of fighting skills with ninjutsu. And are faster. Sakura doesn't have much speed compared to most, any offensive ninjutsu just healing, and no real fighting skills only relying on her super strength.

1. Knocked him back.

2. ...So? Who cares what the PTS Genin can and cannot perceive? We saw the difference in speed between Jounin and the Genin when they all rushed down to stop Neji from killing Hinata, all we able to restrain Neji before he moved a few meters. Sasori is very high-level compared to most of them, and he attacks with incredibly fast showers of needles. Sakura reacted to that. As for blocking the summoned weapons...That's because her attacks consist of one air blast, that can block them all in one swipe of the fan. Takes virtually no speed. She has decent Taijutsu, better than what Temari has displayed...Nothing. Same with Tsunade, she may not be extraordinary at Taijutsu, but being nothing special is better than having nothing.

3. Forbidden jutsu? Yeah, the ability to make snakes come from your arms and kill yourself along with the opponent. She was dumped by Orochimaru. Sakura may have a lack of jutsu, but she has the means to defend against most jutsu and powerful offense that Anko cannot fvck with.

4. Temari is not stronger. Tsunade is, yeah, as well as at least one of the Thunder Kunoichi, prolly both. Sakura has more speed than most. Most ninja would be helpless when attacked by Sasori's needles. Her super strength and reflexes would alone carry her through most fights, but with Tsunade, the Thunder Kunoichi, maybe a few others, and pretty much and good male character, she would lose, yeah.

Temari is a more tactical fighter and more skilled than Sakura in a fight i think Sakura would close the distance and end it quick if she's lucky if not she gets owned.

Originally posted by NemeBro
1. Knocked him back.

2. ...So? Who cares what the PTS Genin can and cannot perceive? We saw the difference in speed between Jounin and the Genin when they all rushed down to stop Neji from killing Hinata, all we able to restrain Neji before he moved a few meters. Sasori is very high-level compared to most of them, and he attacks with incredibly fast showers of needles. Sakura reacted to that. As for blocking the summoned weapons...That's because her attacks consist of one air blast, that can block them all in one swipe of the fan. Takes virtually no speed. She has decent Taijutsu, better than what Temari has displayed...Nothing. Same with Tsunade, she may not be extraordinary at Taijutsu, but being nothing special is better than having nothing.

3. Forbidden jutsu? Yeah, the ability to make snakes come from your arms and kill yourself along with the opponent. She was dumped by Orochimaru. Sakura may have a lack of jutsu, but she has the means to defend against most jutsu and powerful offense that Anko cannot fvck with.

4. Temari is not stronger. Tsunade is, yeah, as well as at least one of the Thunder Kunoichi, prolly both. Sakura has more speed than most. Most ninja would be helpless when attacked by Sasori's needles. Her super strength and reflexes would alone carry her through most fights, but with Tsunade, the Thunder Kunoichi, maybe a few others, and pretty much and good male character, she would lose, yeah.

The flurry of needles was dodged while Chiyo manipulated her. And Temari has gotten much stronger since then, and faster. And she blocked then without TenTen even knowing how she did, without even TenTen seeing she used her fan. And that was a much weaker Temari.

She can't defend against most jutsu. If she survives she could probably heal herself if she has the strength left but unlike Kabuto she doesn't have auto-regen.

I didn't say each and every one was in those categories. Temari is more powerful, and makes up for her taijutsu skills with powerful ninjutsu. The needles was Chiyo's doing not Sakura. The only time Sakura does anything alone is the very end against the army of puppets and when she gets poisoned when the iron sand spikes out. Sakura's reflexes aren't going to save her from attacks that cover a large area which a lot of ninjutsu attacks can do. And she doesn't have more speed than most, and not enough speed to be of any worry against a decent long range ninjutsu user.