Originally posted by King KandyHe just seems like the kind of manipulative dude that rather let others do the dirty work and I'm not sure if he ever recovered from the beating the 3rd gave him maybe he did who knows he could just be a ***** 😬
That would be the first smart move he's made in ages.Can someone explain why exactly Danzo is running scared? What's Sasuke going to do to him when he has all these other ninja to contend with simultaneously?
Could Sasuke have gotten Danzou in a genjutsu by any chance? It seems unlikely as Danzou was running away and he has the Sharingan; though it was covered, and Sasuke was staring at him intently.
There's also a possibility that he may have gotten Mifune in one, but that is unlikely.
Also, is Sasuke left-handed or does he just prefer his left hand? His chidoris always come from his left hand, and that Susano'o had a sword in its left hand.
Sasuke might just force the Kages to get united and work as a team, that'd be a sight.
i wonder what would have happened if kakuzu went after the first again.
i mean, kakuzu lost to the first hokage, but he got away with his life and this was way prior to him gaining the "earth grudge fear" technique, but he also gained the four hearts of the council of elders and with that all five attainable affinities AND the chackra of 5 men. history could have been different if he chose to exact revenge imo.
the same thing goes for the sannin, especially orochimaru. he and his teammates fought hanzo and took an L, but this is far before oro even went on his quest for immortality. his strongest move would be to summon manda. 😬 hanzo was solo'd by nagato, he's not weak but the sannin at the time were (comparatively)
*shrugs*
Originally posted by Demonic PhoenixI could see it happening. Sasuke having Danzou in a genjutsu at the moment. But I don't think the Kage's could work well together. lol
Could Sasuke have gotten Danzou in a genjutsu by any chance? It seems unlikely as Danzou was running away and he has the Sharingan; though it was covered, and Sasuke was staring at him intently.
There's also a possibility that he may have gotten Mifune in one, but that is unlikely.Also, is Sasuke left-handed or does he just prefer his left hand? His chidoris always come from his left hand, and that Susano'o had a sword in its left hand.
Sasuke might just force the Kages to get united and work as a team, that'd be a sight.
Originally posted by psycho gundamWell there was an 'alliance' with Konoha and Rain which is why the war stopped so they couldn't really get revenge. As for Kakuzu, First still had the whole darkness jutsu thing, and a strong kekkai genkai. So it may have went the same way. Power never makes up for lack of skill. Look at Naruto. He has more power than just about anybody but until now he's been unskilled which is why he was always weaker than Sasuke. And I guess Oro never went after Hanzou because he only wants forbidden techniques, not so much out for revenge.
i wonder what would have happened if kakuzu went after the first again.i mean, kakuzu lost to the first hokage, but he got away with his life and this was way prior to him gaining the "earth grudge fear" technique, but he also gained the four hearts of the council of elders and with that all five attainable affinities AND the chackra of 5 men. history could have been different if he chose to exact revenge imo.
the same thing goes for the sannin, especially orochimaru. he and his teammates fought hanzo and took an L, but this is far before oro even went on his quest for immortality. his strongest move would be to summon manda. 😬 hanzo was solo'd by nagato, he's not weak but the sannin at the time were (comparatively)
*shrugs*
Originally posted by Kento
I could see it happening. Sasuke having Danzou in a genjutsu at the moment. But I don't think the Kage's could work well together. lol
Indeed. It's a possibility, and something Sasuke should have done.
Raikage would obviously be an exception, unless he's humbled somehow. I don't think Gaara would have a problem working with the others. However, he'd want to keep Sasuke alive. Tsuchikage might stay out of it, though I have a feeling he'll fight if he's pushed.
Mifune (I consider him a kage in his own way) would also have no problem it would seem. I cannot comment on the Mizukage's position.
Granted they'll all have their own way of doing things and their own intentions, but I feel the possibility of their co-operation exists.
Originally posted by dadudemonWell still I doubt Hanzou knows anything special at all to warrant Oro going to him. He's strong but doesn't have a kekkai genkai or any forbidden moves that I know of.
No, Oro wants all Jutsus. That's the whole point of his immortal reicarnation jutsu: so he has time to learn all the jutsus.
Originally posted by Demonic PhoenixWell Danzou also wouldn't. The only two people I see working together that are kages would be Mizukage and Gaara. Danzou seems to be more of the 'Only fight people I know I can beat' type of man. Tsuchikage wants to stay out of everything that involves fighting because he seems to not be able to fight. And of Course Raikage whose fighting style in general really doesn't work with Gaara's even if they did work together. Though the same might be for Gaara and Mizukage we shall have to see. Though still Sasuke against Mifune, Gaara, and Mizukage doesn't bode well for him...if the plot wasn't on his side.
Indeed. It's a possibility, and something Sasuke should have done.Raikage would obviously be an exception, unless he's humbled somehow. I don't think Gaara would have a problem working with the others. However, he'd want to keep Sasuke alive. Tsuchikage might stay out of it, though I have a feeling he'll fight if he's pushed.
Mifune (I consider him a kage in his own way) would also have no problem it would seem. I cannot comment on the Mizukage's position.
Granted they'll all have their own way of doing things and their own intentions, but I feel the possibility of their co-operation exists.
Originally posted by Kento
Well still I doubt Hanzou knows anything special at all to warrant Oro going to him. He's strong but doesn't have a kekkai genkai or any forbidden moves that I know of.
No one knows jack about Hanzo other than Hanzo beating the eventual 3 legendary Sannin. Meaning, he is very strong. The Sannin later go on to become stronger, as they were young back then, but I would assume that they were very strong, even at that age. (They were probably at least Chounin when they fought him...but they were still youngish...not adults yet. Wouldn't you agree?) Also, I don't think Jiraiya did his sage training until after he was a sannin and left his tutelage with Sarotobi.
Knowing that, I see no reason why Oro wouldn't try to come after Hanzo for any Jutus's that he may have used. However, Hanzo may be a taijutsu-summoner type and, therefore, wasn't really worth getting jutsu's from anyway. We do know, however, that he was a summoner, which is why he got the nickname salamander king or something like that. Who knows: maybe Kishi overlooked his Hanzo refernce. Maybe Oro DID come after him but Kishi scratched that from the works for time...maybe Hanzo was so strong that Oro wouldn't think about it being an option. etc. There's a lot of what ifs. However, we do know that Oro's goal was ALL jutsus.
Originally posted by dadudemonI thought they were Jounin when it happened.
No one knows jack about Hanzo other than Hanzo beating the eventual 3 legendary Sannin. Meaning, he is very strong. The Sannin later go on to become stronger, as they were young back then, but I would assume that they were very strong, even at that age. (They were probably at least Chounin when they fought him...but they were still youngish...not adults yet. Wouldn't you agree?) Also, I don't think Jiraiya did his sage training until after he was a sannin and left his tutelage with Sarotobi.Knowing that, I see no reason why Oro wouldn't try to come after Hanzo for any Jutus's that he may have used. However, Hanzo may be a taijutsu-summoner type and, therefore, wasn't really worth getting jutsu's from anyway. We do know, however, that he was a summoner, which is why he got the nickname salamander king or something like that. Who knows: maybe Kishi overlooked his Hanzo refernce. Maybe Oro DID come after him but Kishi scratched that from the works for time...maybe Hanzo was so strong that Oro wouldn't think about it being an option. etc. There's a lot of what ifs. However, we do know that Oro's goal was ALL jutsus.
Eh Jiraiya still seemed to be impressed anybody could beat him. That could be why Oro never did.
Originally posted by Kento
I thought they were Jounin when it happened.
They could be. But we know that at least Jiraiya become much stronger after he left the village as he became a toad sage and learned many of his uber techniques such as his summoning techniques and sage mode. Apparently, Sage Mode is one of the strongest amps in all of Naruto. The only other amp that rivaled or exceeded that was the lightening amp (lol, look at my pun) that the Raikage gave himself. Naruto's speed, strength, and chakra increased absurdly when in Sage Mode. His speed was such that he could attack Pain's bodies and hit them whereas Jiraiya in an incomplete form could not.
Originally posted by Kento
Eh Jiraiya still seemed to be impressed anybody could beat him. That could be why Oro never did.
That's may be poor writing.
Hanzo was the Kage of that land. He must have been in his late 20s, at the youngest, when he fought the soon to be sannin. I would put him mid 30s. By the time he fought Nagato...it was what? 30 years later? He is a few years younger than Sarotobi at that point. We saw how age weakened Sarotubi against Oro, so we can assume the same for Hanzo. The assassins against Danzo were not Jounin like Kakashi or Zabuza, imo. They were mediocre or subpar jounin, if they were even jounin. Besides, Danzo used his sharingan hacks to win that fight super fast.
i wouldn't say never.
he beat a non-transformed kakuzu, with his presumed only true affinity being water (being a denizen of the hidden waterfall and none of the masks represented that affinity yet he had it).
not only is "current" kakuzu transformed holding 5 times as much chackra, but he's also got that whole hard to kill thing going on, and the ability to split off his four buddies.
the fight would be very different.
Originally posted by Kento
It's still being made by the same people just showing on a different channel. Isn't it? So I don't see why it'll be changed much at all.
Cause of the t*t and under the panty jokes, maybe? I haven't watched English dub in ages. I don't like censorship. If want to watch porn, I watch it...but don't censor a cartoon because you think all cartoons are for kids. (not YOU Kento...but "The Man!"😉
I hate it when stupid dumbass American publishers edit out or censor nudity and/or violence from manga and anime. It's like covering up a certain portion of a painting just because you don't like it. I don't like that. It happens too much with anime and manga.
I vow to make a Berserk anime that is not censored from the horrendous violence or nudity. It's NOT a kids cartoon. It's NOT a kids manga. It shouldn't be made as such. (Not that the old one was...I'm just using that as a good example of something that the dumbass americans would probably edit....have they? I know they did it for Tenjou Tenge.)
Originally posted by psycho gundamAnd he has the ability to lose to people much weaker than him.
i wouldn't say never.he beat a non-transformed kakuzu, with his presumed only true affinity being water (being a denizen of the hidden waterfall and none of the masks represented that affinity yet he had it).
not only is "current" kakuzu transformed holding 5 times as much chackra, but he's also got that whole hard to kill thing going on, and the ability to split off his four buddies.
the fight would be very different.
Originally posted by dadudemonYea see I've never really been bothered by that. It doesn't change the story much at all to edit out blood or to put clothes on a naked person, or to put itmes that were never there. And sometimes it's just funny like the guns edited out of Yugioh, and there hands still being in the same position of holding a gun, and pointing holding there hand out at someone.
Cause of the t*t and under the panty jokes, maybe? I haven't watched English dub in ages. I don't like censorship. If want to watch porn, I watch it...but don't censor a cartoon because you think all cartoons are for kids. (not YOU Kento...but "The Man!"😉I hate it when stupid dumbass American publishers edit out or censor nudity and/or violence from manga and anime. It's like covering up a certain portion of a painting just because you don't like it. I don't like that. It happens too much with anime and manga.
I vow to make a Berserk anime that is not censored from the horrendous violence or nudity. It's NOT a kids cartoon. It's NOT a kids manga. It shouldn't be made as such. (Not that the old one was...I'm just using that as a good example of something that the dumbass americans would probably edit....have they? I know they did it for Tenjou Tenge.)
Originally posted by Kento
Yea see I've never really been bothered by that. It doesn't change the story much at all to edit out blood or to put clothes on a naked person, or to put itmes that were never there. And sometimes it's just funny like the guns edited out of Yugioh, and there hands still being in the same position of holding a gun, and pointing holding there hand out at someone.
It does bother me.
I'll expand on why.
I've made clamations. Painted pictures:water colors and acrylics. Made CG animations. Made sculptures. Made sticky animations. Directed and shot little short live action clips. Etc.
It would really piss me off if someone altered it because something in it offended their code of morals. They would not only change things so that the end viewer won't see what I made, they will also deprive the end viewer of everything I intended with it. I've been censored before and multiple times.
Here's a recent example: For halloween last year, I dressed up as a dude that got loved on. My hair was messy, I had lip stick kisses on my face, smeared on my lips, and kisses on my neck. My tie was loose, my top button was undone, and some of my shirt was untucked.
Our HR generalist refused to take my picture for the company magazine. She took everyone elses' picture but mine. She made it a point to tell me that my "outfit was not appropriate." Despite the fact that very similar things happen in TVG cartoons is kind what makes her perspective so rediculous.
Another time, most recently, I drew a comic on the dry-erase board at work. (We do this often.) My comic was work related with another system outage and the joke was that no one was around to fix it as usual. The punchline was my coworker exclaiming "WHISKEY TANGO FOXTROT!" That's the airforce phonetic alphabet. It simply means "WTF!" I got in trouble for it. 😐 I had to remove the cartoon because it was "offensive." I was censored. 😐