World of Warcraft

Started by The Highlord151 pages

I mean what the hell are our standard warriors with this

http://www.thottbot.com/?set=282

going to do with the warriors with this?

http://www.thottbot.com/?set=496

Like i said, the pvp set was probobly balanced with the other sets back then when killing raggy was a big thing, but then came bwl and now AQ, oh the slaughter there will be....

I agree bro, 100%, AQ just opened for us last night. And as is, i can have the champions gear (rank 10) and get smoked easily by any other player in bwl gear. With the 4 peice AQ sets that will probably be PUGable by the MC geared people, we are going to be in trouble.

I mean what the hell are our standard warriors with this

http://www.thottbot.com/?set=282

going to do with the warriors with this?

http://www.thottbot.com/?set=496

They're going to lose.

Exsacly, thats the problem, we wont stand a chance, we are pvp'ers at heart which also leads to that we only have pvp'ers in the guiild that want to go all the way with it, but still we wont stand a chacne agsint ppl that do not do as much for pvp that we do, so why should we have less opportunity then they to win a match?´cause they went on a picknick to AQ with BWL gear that enables them to fully man the instnace and defeat the bosses? and that should make them able to kick everybodys behind on the battlefield?, this really pisses me of, Blizzard needs to think alot more then they are currently are doing, at the moment we are having a really hard time winning some of the pve top guilds on the field, one recent fight comes to mind, last week we had the opportunity, to make a real superteam for battlegrounds, we had all our grand Marshall's from the guild (4) 1 field marshals, the rest rank 10, we came up agisnt the so called ''best'' horde guild on the server, if we didint stay togher we'd lost the match, 2 v 2 in that game? no chacne we'd be dead, we had to be smart and simply try to fool them in many ways, so it was a long drawn out 3-2 victory to us, but how many guilds have 3 GM's? im really concernd, cause most of the time we wont even have 2 GMs online, so on a average day ppl with pvp gear will face impossible fights vs the instnace ppl, thats simply not fair, why dosent blizzard wake up and start thinking of balance for once in a while

So start running AQ and get that gear for yourselves.

Either way i would think that all efforts to make the pvp sets better are worthless. Getting the PvP gear (blue set) is relatively easy. All you really have to do is pvp whether u suck or not u just pvp alot. And you WILL get rank ups. In order to get Mc epics and BWL epics u CANT suck. There is a differnce in skill required to obtain each set. You cant just pug bwl and get shit, but you can pug pvp and still get cp. Easier to get = not as good, not so easy to get = not so easy to kill.

First of we dont have enough ppl to go to bwl etc, 2nd of all this game has nothing or relative little to do with skill, what makes guilds make bwl is just time and dedication they do it again and again until they get it right from knowing what to do and knowing what to expsect of each player they are with, they dont have superior skill in gamining then other folks may have, they simply have had the time to learn to know the bosses and they team mates, PuG will fail cause hardly anyone ha raided toghter before, there is no leader that they fully trust, they wont follow the tactic 100% , but give a pug time to raid toghter and they will make , its not just some guilds that ''got the skill to take down Nefarian'' thats not how this game works. I want the pvp set to be boosted to be equaly as good to fight with as the pve sets from bwl/aq, cause I dont want folks from bwl to be able to be superior in the field, why even bother in makin the pvp set if it wont be nearly as good as the set you get from instnace, you pvp you do it long enough you get a set made for pvp, as it help you with pvp that means it will help you win bg easyer, why should a set from a pve instnace be better to take down players then the pvp set?

Originally posted by The Highlord
2nd of all this game has nothing or relative little to do with skill

Wrong.

how?

Well for starters the best PvP player on my server is a warrior. Although yea he has BWl gear he beats other warriors wearing the gear he had from before he hit 60. I can kill an epiced out warrior with 1 other person. And if we win then they suck because we both have blues and they have purples. If you are decked out and still resort to running andcrying for help and not being able to fight people alone then you are a sad little person. The game is all based upon skill. gear only helps so that you have more time to reac to things because u have more hp or more mana or whatever. before BWL came out and right after MC came out the best guy on my server had 0 epic items. He joined the WoW pvp tounry and i think he won first or second place. 0 Epics and it was against all other players who had whatever gear. All im going for is that the game is primarily based on player skill, everyone just blames it on gear because they let them having more hp or whatever get to them. Everyone thinks they lose the fight because their gear is better then yours. How about for once realizing that you suck? No offense to anyone but seriously, stop blaming everything on people who actually play the pve part of the game and on their downtime like to have fun killing opposite factions. Call me a hypocrit but as far as im conscerned people need to stop complaining about it. Either join a guild and get epics and think your now a supreme PvPer or quit wow.

He just knew his character thats all, in most cases it will depend on gear since it gives more health points and often gives more crit %, then skill matters little in those cases, its all rutine play in this game, you just gotta know your char and know what to do vs dif classes, its hardly skill, Counter Strike req skill, this game clearly dose not, its simply about the knowleage you have for the char and dif classes, its also alot to do with how you speech your char

Originally posted by The Highlord
how?

How well you play your class can be the difference in life or death.

I beg to differ.. this game requires 10% skill at the most.. the rest of it is just whamming your cooldowns wearing BWL gear.. thus if you are not wearing bwl gear you become screwed

surprisingly most of the wow population cant even manage the 10% skill lol

Here is a little clip of me vs a warrior, and it goes exsacly like SaTsuJiN said, you use your cd's and with good gear you'l also win in most cases, the warrior in the video that im fighting dose not suck, I just have better gear then him and used my cd's in the right order, this is not skill anyone can do this, and this is exsacly what happens to me sometimes aswell, when bwl fellas come up and gank on me, and this is why the pvp set needs to get boosted for more dmg so it can counter the bwl gear. here is the video its 2.5 mb so its a little 10secs to download

http://s53.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=18XFMBV7TGDHT0K62X9LEB13TZ

I would hope that if you are in BWl gear you would never have to burst cooldowns in pvp. EVER. Having the gear makes you not need to use them. Unless you want to go a bg without dying at all then its ok but otherwise no. It makes you look like a noob. This is not my opinion this is the way it works.

yeah so you see it makes all the dif the gear, its no skill needed you get the gear you dont even have to use stuff other ppl need, and if you do use cd's you can walk all over th place

It's sad how a lot of players rely on gear more than anything...

its all about the gear, why even bother to make loot so cleanrly much better then the greens? its cause you can stand a better chance, get good enoug gear and you will most likely be winning 9/10 fights 1v1 that is, get a guild fully clad in good epics and you wont loose 90% of pvp vs average clad puG's, its a shame, but its also a fact

Originally posted by DarkC
It's sad how a lot of players rely on gear more than anything...

if gear doesnt matter , go to BWL in greens.. hehe.. all blizzard rpgs are based on gear

WE mean pvp though not instances. 😛