Why did no-one stop Isildur?

Started by Kitoky3 pages

Originally posted by shadowy_blue
It could also be theorized that maybe Elrond himself is afraid of the Ring and the last thing he wants is to wrestle with Isildur and touch the Ring.

Binga's post is logical too. Elrond and Cirdan (book wise) are just counselors and they can't do anything about it. Or maybe also because neither Cirdan nor Elrond foresaw that Isildur keeping the Ring for himself will have very HUGE consequences than they have expected. All are open to interpretation.

But then again no one foresaw that Isildur would chop off Sauron's damn fingers and end the world of all evil. BOOOOOOOOOO ISILDUR!!!

men and elves could have taken oathes not to touch the king and carry out his judgements and demands, Isildur kept the ring and therefore no one could argue....he was the new king after all.

one doesn't simply SHOVE the king of Gondor......

hey...sauron was gone (so they thought) there job was gone...what harm could his ring do

if only they knew

when ever i watch the first movie i always yell at elrond to pust Isildur in no one ever listens to me

I know, movies can be such annoying when they dont do as their told.....

yeah lol 😄

kill him boromir...ahh mov theres an arrow....MOVE!!!! I SAID MOVE!!!!!!!!!!! NOOOOO!

oh wait hes still alive...😄 YEY!!! OH MY GOD MOVE!!!!!!!!

i give up

Originally posted by Bloom4ever
And there wouldnt hav been any lORD Of the rings for PJ to make into a movie so KMC would neva hav created the lotr forum and all of us on here wld have long perished and might hav been HP fans.
Oh wait, there wouldnt be any HP either if Tolkien hadnt written lotr

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I litrually lol with that ha ha ha ha ha ha

lol i dont kno why i even bother shoutin at the screen, i might as well jus tell the wall to move

I think you will find that at the last alliance Elrond was more than a councillor, he was Gil-Galads standard bearer and even in the film they show him fighting.
I think its more to do with the consequences of Elrond taking the Ring from Isildur by force (he would probably have to kill him to get it), even if he could resist the rings power and destroy it there would still be war between Elves and men

Originally posted by Bloom4ever
lol i dont kno why i even bother shoutin at the screen, i might as well jus tell the wall to move

my wall does move!

Originally posted by sauron
my wall does move!

Same here! And it talks to!

😕 err i'm sure it does 😉

my walls seem to get stolen

Discos - probably because I steel them first

just think if elrond would have fought with isildur.. and isildur killed elrond. and the ring still got away.

than what would have happend to the story with no elrond in it???

good point, I am not sure if anyone would have knew how to actually destroy the ring, perhaps Gandalf would have took a stab at it I suppose.

well Tolkien didnt write about Elrond stopping him and there it stands in the film....

I actually think there are many good points here (apart from saying Elrond would have actually fought Isildur or took the ring or being scared...they are stupid 🙂)

In Aragorns speech at the black gate he says"oaths which you have taken" - men take oaths and no one would dare discourage the king!

Discos - I mean even Theoden said in ROTK that they would basically not win the war but they would ride to battle anyway, you think the Rohirrim didnt think of simply "bailing"

oh, so he was thinking about Hugo Weaving's welfare too 📖 very thoughtful

"When Elrond led Isildur to Mount Doom to destroy the Ring and Isildur refused why did Elrond just let him walk away? Couldn't Elrond have hit Isildur on the head ,knocking him out, and then just destroy the Ring. Isildur would have woken up with a headache but would he not have understood why? Even after that the whole Last Alliance just went home without trying to do anything about the fact that the Ring was not destroyed. Could the Elves not have persuaded the Men that Isildur was under the influence of the Ring and that it should be destroyed rather than just everyone just packing up and going home?"

I know ... i would have pushed him or something... but then there would be no story.... and if theres no ring then smeagol would have not killed deagol and went off into the mountains and lived there for a long time and bilbo would not have stole it and frodo would not have gotten it and he would not have had to go through the trouble of putting it into mount doom and boromir would not have died and there would be no evil and no orcs and the dwarves of moria would be alive and i think ya'll get it now lol...... so i'm going to shut up..... lol.......

i dont know how to do that quotie thingy sop bear w/ me

lol ok. at the bottom right hand corner of everyones post there is a "edit" & "quote" option,

erm, killing Isildur would have been a bad move on Elronds part, killing the king and also losing his self respect and the respect of others.