greenday

Who likes 'em? My fave songs are "Minority" and "Waiting"

I like em' Pheo. 😎

I love greenday and always have. I can't say I have a favorite though. They're all great.

"Basket Case" "Minority" "Warning"

I Love Greenday.

some of Greendays stuff was cool, Nimrod and Warning are great albums.

I LIKE GREENDAY!!! WHOOHOO 😱

GREENDAY 🤘

Greenday 🤘

I like "Basket Case" the best

Slappy Hours, Kerplunk and Dookie are all good albums..............once they decided to jump on the mainstream pop bandwagon they became just another band. I honesty don't know if I've heard anything of theirs since Nimrod. If I did........I probably didn't recognize it was them, it could have been one of a thousand other pop/rock acts that clutter the music industry today.

I'm not a huge fan but I liked that one cd dookie

Greenday = crap

Green Day is an amzing band and they have influenced many of the bands around today. Warning wasn't a great album. It wasn't horrible, but it wasn't great. Those of you who's fav. songs are off the Warning album need to seriously listen to the previous Green Day albums(39/Smooth, Kerplunk, Dookie, Insomniac, Nimrod) and pick any song off there cuz they are all better than anything on Warning. Green Day has a new album coming out this year and I for one am going to buy it because it is still Green Day and they DID NOT sell out. Why not make money doing what you love? Until you have been in a position like that DO NOT call them sell outs, or say they are playing "mainstream pop music".

The only thing Green Day did that was bad was start "The Network". God that was horrible. I hope they aren't still doing that whole act. *puke*

since SAtown Punk got a hair up her ass the other day about this subject and decided to PM me.........I will share the contents of her PM and my reply. I would just type out my opinion on this subject again.......but I'm far too lazy for that.

SAtown_punk wrote on 02-07-2004 03:59 PM:
You have no right to criticize Green Day or any other band that decides they need to sign to a major label to accomplish what they want to creatively. Green Day had to wrestle with the idea or signing to a major label and they didn't want to do it because they knew they would be branded as "sell-outs". I personally don't believe they sold out. When they signed to a major label it was for creative purposes solely. It's not their fauly the majority loved them and decided to buy their CD's. Old Green Day has made them more famous now, and has made them more money. It just took widespread play to get them to where they wanted to be and they couldn't do that on Lookout! records. BTW...Lookout ws going out business when Green Day left. They have since recovered and began releasing more bands. Why? Becuase The sell of 39/Smooth and Kerplunk got them money. If a band signs to a major label to accomplish what they want to do musically and creatively, I don't see that as selling out...I see that as being the great musicians that they are. They wee a great band, and they still are...although Warning was a horrible album.

My reply:

Signing to a major label does not make you a sell out. If somebody is going to pay you alot of money for what you do anyway.......go for it. The Sex Pistols were signed to 3 major labels..........here's the difference.....they didn't change their style of music to suit what the label wanted.

A record label spends alot of money promoting a band. They spend money on press, music videos, etc. For the record company to make their money back.........the band must sell alot of records. Here's where the sell out portion comes in. The record company then tells (Green Day or most any other band) "you have to sell ___million albums so we can make all of our money back plus make a profit"..............to sell millions of albums, the band must appeal to millions of people. This means the band must then begin making "popular" music......music that appeals to alot of people. They can no longer make their punk music they were making on ______ label (Lookout or whichever Indy label you wish to place here).........they can't make enough money for the record company if only 20,000 people buy their records, they have to sell millions of records. They have to change their music..........and Green Day did, a fact that they do not deny.

I don't know what you've been smoking while reading any of my comments........but I have never stated once that signing to a major record label makes you a sell out. As I said, my favorite band of all time...The Sex Pistols...signed to three of them. If a band can continue making the good punk music they have always made....but get paid alot of money for it......good for them. I'm behind them 100%. If a band changes their music style so they can sell more records (pop albums sell alot more copies than punk albums) so their record company can make more money.......they are a sell out.

Billy Joe Armstrong himself has said that the band started making popular music, not punk..........he didn't really care anymore about being labeled a sellout for it. He used to care......he used to get upset when punks would spit at him........now he doesn't care anymore because he isn't around those punks anymore. I don't know about you.....but that is the very definition of a sell out. He basically said, "I don't care what all my old fans think.....because I wouldn't even lower myself now to hang around in the same places that my old fans hang out in"

The reason there have been very few mainstream punk bands is the simple fact that for a band to get signed......the label makes them change their music to become popular so they will sell more albums......basically, the label makes them sell out. A record label doesn't care if 1 million punks get pissed because they have 10 million pop fans to take their place. There are very few exceptions to this.......most notably are The Sex Pistols, The Ramones and The Misfits. All became very popular and attained large fan bases without ever having to change their music .......without ever having to sell out.

Of course she never replied...............I think she saw the futility in it.

i liked greendays brianstew

i am big fan of Greenday.
Evil Dead, i mostly agree with your idea.
SAtonw_Punk, i mostly agree with your idea too
i think every thing has black side and white side.

Actually, I did reply...and I'll post that reply once you reply to me...unless you want the honors of doing it like you so valiantly did before....and i'm a guy, jackass. What...you can't handle that somebody has a seperate opinion from you? 'Cause that's how the world works.

#1. No you didn't. At the time of this post.......you had not replied. You simply replied last night right before you posted in this thread......jackass.

#2. I did not know you were a guy. Most guys do not change their font color.........on message boards, that's usually a girls only thing. Most guys don't care if their text is a cute green or not. Don't get mad at me for assuming you to be a girl because of certain "girl like" actions you did. You did not ever state you were a male, which left the door open for assumption................

#3. You can have any opinion you want. I don't care. The fact still remains that Green Day started out making Punk music.......now they make Pop/rock music. Billie Joe himself admits they arn't punk, they are rock..........why do you have such a problem coming to grips with it? They used to be punk + now they are pop rock = a. They sold out punk music for the bigger pay check......or b. they never were real punks to begin with, they were only pretending so they could get fans because real punks don't just up and decide "hmmm, from today on....I'm not a punk any more".......if they thought punk was a choice, they have no idea what punk is. Punk is who you are.....not what you feel like doing for a couple years.

To further show how full of shit you are........here is your PM reply to me........which has the date/time on it .......showing that you only replied to me right before you posted (20 minutes before) again......not that you had replied to me 2 days ago before I made my last post as you claim.

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SAtown_punk
Junior Member

Registered: Feb 2004
Re: your "punk"
no, no, no...Green day signed to the major label because what they wanted to do creatively could not be offered by lookout! records. The label they picked was ultimately a decision for the music, not the money. They became quasi-famous while still on lookout, and when they signed to a major label, they continued to play what they wanted to. The label did not make them change. Their sound really did not change much at all until the release of Warning, and I have no idea what the hell happened to that. It's true that a lot of labels will make the bands change their sound in order to make a profit. AFI signed to Dreamworks for the very same reason Green Day signed to a Major Label...to further their creative talents and see their ambitions become reality. AFI is now extremely famous, and they are playing the music they want to. Rancid is on Warner Bros. but still made a bad ass CD in Indestructible. Indy labels still are, and will forever be, the greatest labels to release CD's by punk bands, but we both agree that there is nothing wrong with signing to a major label as long as it is for the good of the music.

Today 12:08 AM

So you're the stereotypical guy now, huh? I like to use color. Since when did that become a bad thing?

I have no problem coming to terms with the fact that Green Day doesn't play "punk" music anymore. That's not the big deal. The big deal is that they did it on their own terms, not for the money.

And I didn't get online Sunday, so I didn't check this thread or my PM's. After I sent you that message, I checked this thread and then replied to your stupid F*N Snide little comment. I didn't say I replied two days ago. And I'm not wrong for what I think, and you're not wrong for what you think. I'll let anybody have their own opinion, but when somebody bad mouths a band I like, I find it to be my responsibility to defend said band.