Saber twirls

Hi,I'm looking for saber twirl techniques. I thnik saber twirling looks really cool, so I'd like to learn to do it, too. However, I haven't managed to find anything on the subject in the Web, and the movements in the movies are too fast, and even with the slowdown I can't catch them. So any help - preferably provided with charts - would be greatly appreciated.

May you should just try learning kung fu? and then incorperate those skills. Lightsabers is one of the many reason's I took up the sword as my favorite weapon. Ninja Turtles was the reason for martial arts.

Here are a bunch of SW fanfilms, though I didn't see my favorite on there; the one with the two Chinese guys in the field. Another fave (which, again, I don't see on this page) is the one in which two Sith go at it to the death.

Anyone know what these two are called, and/or where they can be found?