LOTR from a christian point of view

Started by samIam6 pages

whooo go smodden~!!!! the author is kurt bruner and jim ware

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I often say *dies* when I'm waaaaaaay happy. Yeps. In extreme state of boredom, no one's on Tig party, so I'm making another e-mail addy so that I can petition again for Dom and Bilyy. 🙂 Iirima was taken, so was Iirema, so I had to do [email protected]. Anyways...

tolkien was catholic note 2nd middle name

I tottaly agree with you guys 😛, but i just read the forword to fellowship, and tolkien reallly didnt want his books to seem religous or symbolistic. 😛

i was here yesterday before anyone replyed to this message, so i was typing all my feelings about this, and all this stuff happened to my computer, and i had to restart the message like a million times (or 4) and i was upset already cuz of the stupid things the people said about God in LOTR, so i finally gave up and came back today, and a lot of what i was gonna say is already on this forum now. i was soo disapointed when i read the article. i am a Christian, and LOTR is definetly a Christian alegory (or whatever its called) for me, and it made me really upset to know that the actors and other people associated w/ lotr couldnt say that there was Christianity in lotr. i cant believe they are afraid to talk about God! i couldnt even finish the article after i read what Andy Serkis said about banishing all religions. that made me so mad. i'm mad at Orli too, he was too afraid to talk about God or Christianity too. there was other stuff i thought about last night that i was gonna write, but i guess i forgot. anyway, im glad to know other people in here are Christians too.

THANKS A TRILLION .. it is soo nice to know that there are other people who share my same opinion!! WHOOO * jumps around excitedly*

yea, I am a christian also (relationship not just religion) you should get Christian History's latest Issue, it is Tolkien packed! 50 pages of Tolkien!!

yea, tolkien was Catholic also (so was C.S.Lewis, they had many disagreements) also I don't think Tolkien wrote it as an analogy of christianity, it just came out that way. he wrote the Hobbit to read to his kids and I think he was just writing LOFTR for fun at first.

woohoo, go Tolkien!
wow, 50 pages... kewl

Originally posted by Extol
yea, tolkien was Catholic also (so was C.S.Lewis, they had many disagreements) also I don't think Tolkien wrote it as an analogy of christianity, it just came out that way. he wrote the Hobbit to read to his kids and I think he was just writing LOFTR for fun at first.

but he was a Christian, or Catholic - same dif - , so how could some of his beliefs not appear in his writing?

well, catholics and christians are not the same thing. For Example... Jesus Christ said it is by faith alone that we are saved and the Catholic doctrine requires faith + deeds, there are many differences, I don't have the time to explain them all but i would be happy to email them to you sometime.

(and when I say Catholic I mean Roman Catholic)
and his beleifs somewhat appear in his writing (Frodo battles with his "sinful nature" he just doesn't come right out in say it)

i didnt mean thet are exactly the same... i just wrote that cuz i was in a hurry and wanted the message to be short.

hey everyone I'm a Christian too! 😄

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Guys! I'm a Christian too! 😄

Tolkien was well-known for all of his stories, but mainly, his "The Lord of the Rings" trilogy. Tolkien was also known for his highly Christian beliefs, and he added elements of Christ and God into his works. In fact in The Letters of JRR Tolkien, Tolkien himself said that LOTR is "a fundamentally religious and Catholic work".

Tolkien wanted the book to show religion, rather than talk about it. When Frodo is merciful to Gollum, despite every temptation to act otherwise, he shows Tolkien's belief in passion and forgiveness.

When Frodo presses on towards Mount Doom despite nagging worries, he shows Tolkien's belief in trusting a divine plan. Other characters display the same qualities and face the same tests.

The pain and regret Elves feel because they have to live forever shows that, in Tolkien's view, humans are lucky to be free from that worry.

When Melkor and Sauron try to act like gods in Middle-earth, they always fall short of actually creating something original and have to deform something made by God, such as when they make Orcs out of Elves. Only the one God, Iluvatar, can create.

Sauron is the main focus of evil in the trilogy of Lord of the Rings. We can closely relate him to Satan, for he is the leading power of opposition against good. Also, the One Ring can relate to what Satan can do to us... call us against what we know as right, and bring us to wrong, or in LOTR's case... darkness.

Gollum is a main focus point in what Christians may face today. Some are doubtful to believe in Christ, for many questions face them, like, "Is God real," or "What can God do for me?" Gollum's case, however, is focused on Frodo, or his "Master." He fights with himself over whether or not his Master has betrayed him or not. Gollum is the clear portrayal as a sinner... he wanted the evil that he loved so much, and what benefited him the most. "The Ring." But he never looked to the "Master" to see what else was in store, and how his life may have been. Another portrayal of the element of sin in the Ring to Gollum is that it was addictive. That's why Gollum's appearance seemed so gruesome. He was an addict of evil, which can warp not only the mind, but the body and the soul.

Gandalf is a focus point on Christ. Christ sacrificed himself to save us on the cross, whereas Gandalf broke the bridge in the Mines of Moria to save the rest of the Fellowship, and then "rose again."

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i totally agree w/ everything u just said...

That is SOO AWSOME shadowyblue!! I amsoo happy to get to know so many christians on FORUM!!! YEAH!!! *does a jig* WOO HOOOO!!!