Originally posted by jinzin
😉 that's my boyvs. punisher?
I'd say if they just pop and appear out of nowhere, Preston again. Without prep, Frank's not a living arsenal anymore. Without prep, he can't "hunt" someone down.
So if they're just forced into fighting, each with the same kind of weapon, yeah, Preston wins. He's like the Midnighter with Guns and swords.
Originally posted by Dark Urizen
I'd say if they just pop and appear out of nowhere, Preston again. Without prep, Frank's not a living arsenal anymore. Without prep, he can't "hunt" someone down.So if they're just forced into fighting, each with the same kind of weapon, yeah, Preston wins. He's like the Midnighter with Guns and swords.
indeed....indeed.... god I love that movie...
this thread is odd. firsly becuase some people think that wolverine has any chance on earth of winning, and secondly beacause people actually think wolverine could actually beat the juggernaut.
unless wolverine is picked up by someone like hulk and used as a weapon on juggernaut he has no business in this fight. wolverine could never in his wildest dreams break the juggernauts skin. nor could he ever wear out the juggernaut by avoiding him. the most he could hope for is the juggernaut losing interest before wolverine gets too tired to run from him.
in uncanny x-men 183 juggernaut beat up colossus in a bar without trying, and without armor. afterwards, he saw wolverine and nightcrawler standing by and asked them if they wanted a piece of the action, wolverines only responce after his teammate had just been beaten unconcious and left for dead was "nope." wolverine wanted no part of an unarmored juggernaut whod just been in a fight with the x-mens powerhouse. this fight was over the second it was concieved.
Originally posted by Decay
this thread is odd. firsly becuase some people think that wolverine has any chance on earth of winning, and secondly beacause people actually think wolverine could actually beat the juggernaut.unless wolverine is picked up by someone like hulk and used as a weapon on juggernaut he has no business in this fight. wolverine could never in his wildest dreams break the juggernauts skin. nor could he ever wear out the juggernaut by avoiding him. the most he could hope for is the juggernaut losing interest before wolverine gets too tired to run from him.
in uncanny x-men 183 juggernaut beat up colossus in a bar without trying, and without armor. afterwards, he saw wolverine and nightcrawler standing by and asked them if they wanted a piece of the action, wolverines only responce after his teammate had just been beaten unconcious and left for dead was "nope." wolverine wanted no part of an unarmored juggernaut whod just been in a fight with the x-mens powerhouse. this fight was over the second it was concieved.
well not to say I don't agree with you but that's not much of a feat.. especially considering a bone claw wolverine basically did that exact same thing to juggernaught.. I agree with you, just think you could have used a way better feat.
i only used it becuase it related to wolverine and how juggernaut is supposed to tire out and that unarmored wolverine could cut him up.
buuutttt...how about him allowing cannonball to blast directly into him only for cannonball to wind up barely concious and juggernaut unphased. or when he took out generation x, banshee and emma frost with a clap. or taking an optical beam from cyclops that could supposedly shatter a small planet. or letting dazzler and chamber use all their power against him only to have them pass out at his feet and him stand unharmed. or not only being hit by thors godforce and surviving, but actually being able to fight against it until the ground collapsed beneath them? good enough?
hes got some pretty impressive feats behind him, that one was the most relatable to the topic though i thought.
Originally posted by sandman26
well wolverine has the healing factor and all i figure the only way to kill him is to drown him or tear every piece of flesh from his body and wolverine isn't the type of guy to run around and dodge the other guyif ya know what i mean
Juggernaut has had his entire body burned down to the skeleton but he still got up and was talking!
not burned, hes been set on fire and covered in molten steel before to no effect, hes also had his armor heated until it was white hot and he didnt even acknowlege that it was happening. his flesh was magically removed by d'spayre after he fed off the juggernaut and gained nearly infinate power and the ability to manipulate reality. he couldnt get over the fact juggernaut was still alive. he just kept saying things like "he still lives... he still moves.." in shock.
Amazing.
People are actually saying Wolverine would win!
Goodness .....even if Wolverine could take out Juggs helmet that wouldn't help him one bit .....the helmet is to protect Juggs from telepathic attacks NOT to protect him from PHYSICAL attacks.
Wolverine could get the helmet off and start hacking and slashing, and NOTHING would happen.
The only way Wolverine could hurt Juggernaut is if:
a) He manages to get some telepathy.
b) He manages to get more power than Cyttorak, and thus overcomes the magical aegis around the Juggernaut.
Wolverine has neither.
And nothing Wolverine 8888 might say can change that.
Although on the other hand it doesn't surprise me that Wolverine 8888 thinks Juggernaut might lose against Wolverine.
After all it is this same punk poster (W8888) who insinuated that Superman might lose against Wolverine (yep, you read that right).
Thus if he thinks Wolverine has a chance against Superman, and he thinks that Juggernaut cannot beat Wolverine, what hope is there for him?
In fact here is that ludicrous post Wolverine8888 made (spelling mistakes included):
Originally posted by wolverine8888
ok u all think super man would kick wolverine ass but ur wrong. Wolverine fought limbo who is just as strong as superman and is a better fighter but super man fast and when thses to fight they tie or superman barly wins. wolverine has beaten limbo the immortal in his first fight with him. ALSo wolverine claws can deffently pentrate super man they can go throu any thing so of course they cna go throu superman. also wolverine is a far beter fighter then super man in fatc he the best super hero fighter there is bye far. super man might be faster stronger but wolverien a way better fighter and his claws can go throu superman. oh and that bull about suber man burning wolverine wont work wolverine bean uked and got up a less then a minut later and he also got his hole body incinacrated and he heal in 30 seconds this all happend in venom the run. oh and yes wolverine has punch sper man and sent him in awall be for so dotn give me that bull he cnat hurt him. it woudl eba greta fight either they would tie or wolverien would tkae it cuz him basicly imortal cuz his power so advanced.
Originally posted by spetznaz
Amazing.
People are actually saying Wolverine would win!Goodness .....even if Wolverine could take out Juggs helmet that wouldn't help him one bit .....the helmet is to protect Juggs from telepathic attacks NOT to protect him from PHYSICAL attacks.
Wolverine could get the helmet off and start hacking and slashing, and NOTHING would happen.The only way Wolverine could hurt Juggernaut is if:
a) He manages to get some telepathy.
b) He manages to get more power than Cyttorak, and thus overcomes the magical aegis around the Juggernaut.Wolverine has neither.
And nothing Wolverine 8888 might say can change that.
Although on the other hand it doesn't surprise me that Wolverine 8888 thinks Juggernaut might lose against Wolverine.
After all it is this same punk poster (W8888) who insinuated that Superman might lose against Wolverine (yep, you read that right).
Thus if he thinks Wolverine has a chance against Superman, and he thinks that Juggernaut cannot beat Wolverine, what hope is there for him?In fact here is that ludicrous post Wolverine8888 made (spelling mistakes included):
Originally posted by wolverine8888
ok u all think super man would kick wolverine ass but ur wrong. Wolverine fought limbo who is just as strong as superman and is a better fighter but super man fast and when thses to fight they tie or superman barly wins. wolverine has beaten limbo the immortal in his first fight with him. ALSo wolverine claws can deffently pentrate super man they can go throu any thing so of course they cna go throu superman. also wolverine is a far beter fighter then super man in fatc he the best super hero fighter there is bye far. super man might be faster stronger but wolverien a way better fighter and his claws can go throu superman. oh and that bull about suber man burning wolverine wont work wolverine bean uked and got up a less then a minut later and he also got his hole body incinacrated and he heal in 30 seconds this all happend in venom the run. oh and yes wolverine has punch sper man and sent him in awall be for so dotn give me that bull he cnat hurt him. it woudl eba greta fight either they would tie or wolverien would tkae it cuz him basicly imortal cuz his power so advanced.
You make a great post, but a lousy point. Why? Because:
1. The posters that use logic have made their decisions (in about 0.000342 seconds), so there's no need to convince them
2. The wolverine extremists will not be persuaded by any level, manner or quantity of logic.
Originally posted by Dark Urizen
You make a great post, but a lousy point. Why? Because:1. The posters that use logic have made their decisions (in about 0.000342 seconds), so there's no need to convince them
2. The wolverine extremists will not be persuaded by any level, manner or quantity of logic.
Great point.
Most posters know that Juggernaut is beyond Wolverine, and thus need no convincing.
As for the Wolverine fanboys nothing can dissuade them from the inane belief that Wolverine has sufficient ability to win against foes such as Superman and the Juggernaut.
Thus you are correct .....a total waste of time.