Avenged Sevenfold

the band is really talented and i originally didn't like them, but then i got city of evil and it changed my view on them. it's really awesome and has a lot of ballads. it really makes me wonder how you could classify Avenged Sevenfold. What other band is similar ot them?

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
The only thing I'll give Avenged Sevenfold credit for is being the original band in a genre of carbon copies. Doesn't alter the fact that they're quite shit though.

But, if you like them, go for it.

-AC

Dont see how they are shit. Any member of the band is excellent, with the guitarists (especially Synyster) being simply astounding. Some crazy solos and intense riffs

Exactly, you don't see how any member of the band is shit, because you think they're excellent.

Synyster Gates is overrated. Nothing he does impresses me.

-AC

Eh, Crappy band IMO.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri

Synyster Gates is overrated. Nothing he does impresses me.

-AC

Really? You dont like his solos?

No, I don't.

-AC

Meh, Ive heard a lot of his solos and they are awesome and epic

Yes, to you. Evidently, not to me.

-AC

So what is it about the band you dont like? Just wondering

i quite like them

Originally posted by RedAlertv2
So what is it about the band you dont like? Just wondering

Their music, I think it sounds unbearably mediocre.

-AC

I dont see whats mediocre about it. I mean, nothing wrong that you think it, but I just dont see it. Differing opinions I guess.

AC, if you don't like their music or even the genre all-together, that's understandable... But to say that they're shit, and to give no real reason, besides the fact that you don't like them is kind of close-minded.

It's not is it? They don't do anything on their instruments that amazes me, but being technically brilliant doesn't mean you'll put out great music, so the fact that they aren't doesn't mean much.

The reason why I don't like them is because I don't like their music. It's mediocre, it's not something I listen to and think "This is unique" or "This is something no other metalcore band could come up with". I said this, read my posts.

Oh, and yeah, they seem to be stuck in the 80s with their attitude. They're just a horribly lame band.

-AC

The only thing I'll give Avenged Sevenfold credit for is being the original band in a genre of carbon copies

it's not something I listen to and think "This is unique" or "This is something no other metalcore band could come up with". I said this, read my posts.

make up your mind

Where in those posts do I make anything BUT the same decision?

They were one of the first, besides Poison the Well (as noted) to do it. That doesn't mean they're not doing anything any other metalcore band can't do. I didn't think it then, I don't think it now.

Don't take my posts out of context to prove a point.

-AC

I still think they are an excellent band. for one thing, they have exceptional technical ability, something Ive already pointed out. Not to mention that M. Shadows is an excellent singer. He had a great ability to flawlessly go from screaming epic singing. And he writes some great, long songs. I suppose sometimes the lyrics are a little lacking, but theyve improved from Waking the Fallen to City of Evil. And they're religious references in many of their songs ("beast and the harlot", "the wicked end," many others) are quite unique and very interesting. Theyve expanded their style quite a bit over 3 albums, and have a lot of variety in the emotions in their songs. Overall a high quality band

Ive never listened to Poison the Well, so I cant comment on them, but I do know that even if they are similar to a7x, and even if they came first, Avenged is still a cool band.

They don't have exceptional technical ability, for one. You've pointed out you believe that, yes. They haven't though. BUT, that doesn't matter. Loads of great bands are technically blinding.

M. Shadows is an excellent singer, to you. Right? Fine, I respect your right to think that. I can't hear it for you, you hear what you hear. I don;t think he is at all.

Lyrics matter not to me really but Avenged Sevenfold are always extremely cliche.

So in conclusion: You like Avenged Sevenfold. I don't. And that's cool.

I don't think they're HORRFICALLY shit, by any means. If I HAD to choose to choose to listen to Avenged Sevenfold or Simple Plan, it'd be Avenged Sevenfold. I just don't like them.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
They don't have exceptional technical ability, for one. You've pointed out you believe that, yes. They haven't though. BUT, that doesn't matter. Loads of great bands are technically blinding.

M. Shadows is an excellent singer, to you. Right? Fine, I respect your right to think that. I can't hear it for you, you hear what you hear. I don;t think he is at all.

Lyrics matter not to me really but Avenged Sevenfold are always extremely cliche.

So in conclusion: You like Avenged Sevenfold. I don't. And that's cool.

I don't think they're HORRFICALLY shit, by any means. If I HAD to choose to choose to listen to Avenged Sevenfold or Simple Plan, it'd be Avenged Sevenfold. I just don't like them.

-AC

Lyrics don't matter to you? That's like just reading a comic because it has a cool cover. Lyrics are like the most important part. And I really don't believe M. Shadows is an excellent singer, but I really don't think many rock stars are excelent singers. They're great at screaming though....

Originally posted by WAF3001
Lyrics don't matter to you? That's like just reading a comic because it has a cool cover. Lyrics are like the most important part.

Poor analogy.

If you're attracted to a comic by the cover, doesn't mean the words aren't important to you.

Secondly, words in a comic and pictures in a comic are in symbiosis. Lyrics and music can be completely unrelated.

To say the lyrics are the most important part suggests that you'd get more out of the music by reading the sleeve than listening to the album.