a question

the sun doesn't "come" from anywhere. It's the center of our solar system. We rotate around it and i'm pretty sure it comes from the right because it sets on the left. (according to a map)

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Absolutely. He is making a link between left/right and East/West that does not exist.

Like I say, the only reason we normally consider East to be on the 'right' is because we calibrate from North, and no other reason.

Incidentally, why do you assume anti-clockwise movement is 'leftwards'? It can be rightwards.

The logic here is totally false. Left and Right depend entirely on what you are calibrating from.

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Again, why do you say the world spins to the 'left'? For a lot of people it spins to the 'right'. Anti-clockwise is neither left nor right by definition, it can be either.

You navigate by using a relative idea of where east/west are, not by linking the two to a permanent idea of left or right. Sometime East will be right, sometimes it will be left. But the DEFAULT is right as it is assumed you are facing North. This is simple common sense.

You say:

"world spins to the left... therefore... the sun cums from the left side not the right"

Wrong. The world spins to the left- IF you calibrate it from 12 o'clock- and the sun comes from the right, IF you calibate from North. Simple.

If, however, you count the Earth's rotation from a 6 o'clock position and are facing South, then the world spins to the right and the sun comes up from the left.

You cannot say that just because in one instance something is right or left then in all instances things must be right or left- it is all relative.

For example, anyone watching an object rotating anti-clockwise will see an object on it it going rightwards, if he is looking it it from the side. You should be able to do that easily- take a tennis ball, draw an x on its equator, and spin it anti-clockwise. Which way is the x moving when you can see it? Right, isn't it? But when you cannot see it, it is going left. Rotaional movement is not bound to right or left.

Now put a soccer ball a few feet away from it and say that is the sun. Turn the tennis ball again with the x facing you asnd the soccer ball opposite. The x is moving to the right, and in moving to the right moves towards the sun, which will come into view for the x from the right- IF the person at the X is looking North. See? It is all down to perspective.