Peter Parker or Ben Reilly?

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Originally posted by doctorstrongbad
I know what Phoenix means, I was using her as an example. Many comic characters have come back to life ... The green Goblin, Doctor Octopus, Elektra. The list goes on and on.

Don't forget Bucky, as far as Marvel goes it was him and uncle Ben that were never supposed to come back... So much for that.

What'll we see next the return of Batman's parents?

Originally posted by docb77
Don't forget Bucky, as far as Marvel goes it was him and uncle Ben that were never supposed to come back... So much for that.

What'll we see next the return of Batman's parents?

You never know what comics will do next. Maybe they will reveal superman and batman's identities.

Originally posted by doctorstrongbad
I know what Phoenix means, I was using her as an example. Many comic characters have come back to life ... The green Goblin, Doctor Octopus, Elektra. The list goes on and on.

My point was, when you used CRAZINESS to apply in Jean's numerous comeback. So, not a best example to support your point. 🙂

Characters come back, of course, for serious and practical reasons. Production = Money. The characters attract readers, reasonable enough to maintain them in an on-going series elsewhere. It's not craziness. It's business. 🙄

So, instead of presenting new characters that would result to a more confused and over-crowded universe... restore, reuse, and recycle is still the most effective strategy.

🙂

Unless the death is meaningful in a way. When they bring a character back from a heartfelt death, Aunt May for example, it just soils things for a while.

Originally posted by Dan-El
Unless the death is meaningful in a way. When they bring a character back from a heartfelt death, Aunt May for example, it just soils things for a while.

I totally agree with this. How many times has Aunt May come back from death?

Originally posted by doctorstrongbad
I totally agree with this. How many times has Aunt May come back from death?

Once, the only problem was when she died it was realy touching and very well written story, it made Ben Reily seem more human and showed the love all the characters showed for May, and only to have this story ruined by a very weak plot about an actress who played her to her death(she liked acting so much she killed herself for the greatest role)... 😕 And then we were stuck with classic Aunt May untill JMS came along and gave her a personality. Brining May back was not a good move, I mean since shes's been back she has gone off in Iron Man armour, let the woman die.

I swear if they revive Gwen or Uncle Ben Marvel realy will have gone to far.

Originally posted by Sparkz
Once, the only problem was when she died it was realy touching and very well written story, it made Ben Reily seem more human and showed the love all the characters showed for May, and only to have this story ruined by a very weak plot about an actress who played her to her death(she liked acting so much she killed herself for the greatest role)... 😕 And then we were stuck with classic Aunt May untill JMS came along and gave her a personality. Brining May back was not a good move, I mean since shes's been back she has gone off in Iron Man armour, let the woman die.

I swear if they revive Gwen or Uncle Ben Marvel realy will have gone to far.

Can't remember if it was Friendly Neighborhood or Sensational, but one of those books brought an Uncle Ben from an alternate timeline into the marvel timeline. He was still lurking in the shadows at the end of the storyline. 🙄

Originally posted by docb77
Can't remember if it was Friendly Neighborhood or Sensational, but one of those books brought an Uncle Ben from an alternate timeline into the marvel timeline. He was still lurking in the shadows at the end of the storyline. 🙄

Its true, but to be fair they did bring back Batman's father in an other worlds comic. You know, the DC rip off of What If?

petes the real deal so im with da webhead

Nobody will pick Ben over Peter. Peter is Spider-man.

Originally posted by doctorstrongbad
Nobody will pick Ben over Peter. Peter is Spider-man.

I would have picked Ben over Peter before marvel screwed it up and killed him, but with the history that Peter's gained since then, it would be another screw-up to try to replace him again.

Originally posted by docb77
I would have picked Ben over Peter before marvel screwed it up and killed him, but with the history that Peter's gained since then, it would be another screw-up to try to replace him again.

Why did you like Ben better than Peter?

Originally posted by doctorstrongbad
Why did you like Ben better than Peter?

At the time... Ben had less whining and more snappy banter. He was a more energetic spidey. I also liked the fact that Ben was like peter when he was learning the ropes. Plus, he beat Venom all by his lonesome. His spider-sense worked fine against the big V.

Originally posted by docb77
At the time... Ben had less whining and more snappy banter. He was a more energetic spidey. I also liked the fact that Ben was like peter when he was learning the ropes. Plus, he beat Venom all by his lonesome. His spider-sense worked fine against the big V.

Yeah he had some good points, but Peter will always be the only Spider-man for me.

I liked Ben, and I wish they didn't kill him off because the Scarlet Spider was a great character. However, I didn't really like the whole "Ben is the real Peter Parker... PSYCHE!" angle.

I really and I mean really hated the clone saga.

couldn't really care that Ben died the way he did.

The clone saga was one of the worst story arcs ever.

No, the clone saga was a great idea that was horribly mishandled and turned into a grotesquery by the marketing department.

I could have done a better job, and I'm not really a writer.

Originally posted by docb77
No, the clone saga was a great idea that was horribly mishandled and turned into a grotesquery by the marketing department.

I could have done a better job, and I'm not really a writer.

no the clone saga was a crappy idea from the beginning.

lets bring spider-man "back to the basics" (God I hate regression)

what was wrong with spidey at the time that needed to be fixed in such a way that they needed to get rid of peter completely while a new guy took his place?

to many villains? simply ignore them
Marriage? sigh
pete is to mean and not as wisecracking as he used to be? tell the writers to cut it out.

Originally posted by Black Adam
no the clone saga was a crappy idea from the beginning.

lets bring spider-man "back to the basics" (God I hate regression)

what was wrong with spidey at the time that needed to be fixed in such a way that they needed to get rid of peter completely while a new guy took his place?

to many villains? simply ignore them
Marriage? sigh
pete is to mean and not as wisecracking as he used to be? tell the writers to cut it out.

The regression wasn't the good idea, it was the clone thing. If they'd used it well, you could have gotten 2 great stories out of it. Imagine finding out that you've been living someone else's life, or that someone else was living yours. Those are the stories that could have been good, but not much beyond a couple of story arcs. The clone saga was just way too long and then they killed it even for fans with that stupid death.

Why did they need to get rid of Peter? They didn't, but the mechanism they tried to use had potential aside from the "regression".