Tom Bombadil

Started by Lord_Andres5 pages

I just wish Pj had included him in the movie 🙁

I got sort of annoyed and distracted for a minute when they jumped the ferry and suddenly ended up straight at Bree/prancing pony

like the river was next to the bleeding gate of the place!

Discos - wants uncle Tom ✅

From the ferry to the Prancing Pony did seem laughable, 20 miles would be a long trek even by river, and why were they not followed by Nazgul along the river? So that when they landed, they would have been there waiting for the hobbits.

it also made it seem they were well afraid of the water

and yet they weren't afraid to cross the river by rivendell...

Re: Tom Bombadil

Originally posted by LadyEowyn
I dont know about anyone else (except Ushgarak) but, what did you guys think about tom Bombadil's absence in FoTR

absense? he was in th fellowship.

^^ not in the movie man,

@feanor, yes but they stopped before reaching it and queried wether to cross it

n then they got washed away like mud oin a tshirt in the washing machine...

sure why not 🙄

anyways back to Tom, I bet Tom could have done that too 😛

anyone else found it the slightest bit weird that Sam,Pippin & merry woke up and had no clothes on but mere carments of gold for clothing....due to Tom taking off their clothes when they were sleeping 🤨

lol na am kidding, I wouldnt of licked to sleep in cold shit

they should have had chosen Tom to be the ring bearer, I mean y the hell didint they do that, so stupit

Originally posted by Lord_Andres
they should have had chosen Tom to be the ring bearer, I mean y the hell didint they do that, so stupit

They explain it quite well in the book, where it's also suggested - Bombadil is a little careless about things like that, he wouldnt understand the importance of the Ring or at least not take it for serious
He was absolutely not influenced by its powers - even doesnt become invisible - and would probably have forgotten about it after a few days.

Originally posted by Lord_Andres
they should have had chosen Tom to be the ring bearer, I mean y the hell didint they do that, so stupit

who are they? Tolkien, council of Elrond, the guy who works at Tesco?

mmm....what Exa said wouldnt be entirely true (the part about invisible and not being drawn by its powers is true...), I mean if someone like Elrond or Gandalf went to Tom and presented him with the task I am sure he would of took it the better part serious?

I don't really think so.
Bombadil isn't really concerned by the thoughts of the great, of the leaders, he does not really have the will to fight. He is a peaceful man and definitely not the right one to ask to be the ringbearer

was it Erestor who suggested it?

mmm.....although Tom is a mysterious character and wise one, I say i sway my vote that he didnt get the ring, I dont think he would be able to defend it against the foes

Discos - unless it was old willow 😖hifty:

From The Lord Of The Rings, Chapter 2/II
"I should have summoned him [Tom Bombadil] to our Council"
"He would not have come", said Gandalf.
"Could we not still send messages to him and obtain his help?" asked Erestor. "It seems that he has a power even over the Ring."
"No, I should not put it so," said Gandalf. "Say rather that the Ring has no power over him. He is his own master. But he cannot alter the Ring itself, nor break its power over others. And now he is withdrawn into a little land, within bounds that he has set, though non can see them, waiting perhaps for a change of days, and he will not step beyond them."
"But within those bounds nothing seems to dismay him," said Erestor. "Would he not take the Ring and keep it there, for ever harmless?"
"No," said Gandalf, "not willingly. He might do so, if all the free folk of the world begged him, but he would not understand the need. And if he were given the Ring, he would soon forget it, or most likely throw it away. Such things have no hold on his mind. He would be a most unsafe guardian; and that alone is answer enough."

[...]

"Power to defy our enemy is not in him, unless such power is in the earth itself. And yet we see that Sauron can torture and destroy the very hills. What power still remains lies with us, here in Imladris, or with Círdan at the Havens, or in Lórien. But have they the strength, have we here the strength to withstand the Enemy, the coming of Sauron at the last, when all else is overthrown?"
"I have not the strength," said Elrond; "neither have they."

Fascinating,
this is the most important information about Bombadil in the whole book,
and yet it doesnt appear in the indeces in my editions, took me ages to find it 🙄

good stuff, is there anything in the unfinished tales of gandalf/Erestor ever meeting Tom?

In the Unfinished Tales? No, there isn't a single word about Tom Bombadil in there 🙂

.......but in LoTR there are some hints at the end of the book--

(Gandalf: )

"I am going to have a long talk with Bombadil: such a talk as I have not had in all my time."

[frodo: I wonder how he [bombadil] is getting on?]
"As well as ever, you may be sure," said Gandalf. "Quite untroubled, and I should guess, not much interested in anything that we have done or seen, unless mperhaps in our visits to the Ents."

--- that definitely sounds like Gandalf knowing Bombadil quite well.

most likely, cheers for that info

I cant remember that bit being at the end of the book, its been nearing 2 years since I have read the book

I found it when I was searching for the other quote some postings ago 😂

It's when the Hobbits are returning to the Shire and near Bree leave Gandalf who had accompagnied them because he is going to see Bombadil again while they're directly going to the Shire, though Frodo says he'd also like to visit Bombadil again