id like to correct a few facts out there. cyber doesn't just control minds out of nowhere. he is only able to control minds after his hallucinegenic drug takes effect. his main mutant power is that he is able to recognize brain patterns which enables him to track his enemies for many miles. he also has healing powers, not that he needs them, except maybe on his face. as far as fighting abilities go, in my knowledge cyber hass the best hand to hand fighting prowess aamong all weapon x products. he served as a mentor to wolverine. he is stronger than both wolvi and sabertooth... i think something on par with omega red in strength. but as much as i like cyber (he's in my top 5), i still think colossus would win this one if it wass just a good cclean fight. cyberr would only get a few scratches in, but colossus's strength should be enough to daze cyber even through his adamantium skin, maaybe even knock him out. but if cyber somehow gets his drugs into colossus, its over for mr. steel. but im not sure if ccyber would be able to penetrate deep enuf into colossus to get to his blood stream.
Yeah, I just looked up the mind control thing. On my side though, it says that he can track mutants. And he wasn't killed by Wolverine, he was killed by Genesis when he used metallic Death Watch beetles to strip him of his adamantium.
And, Cyber could alway go old school and hit Colossus with an eye gouge.😉
well, i think you should also do more research on colossus. i'm not sure he has a blood stream while he is armored up. its not clear weather he breathes or not in armored form. i'm pretty sure the poisons in his claws are going to be useless in this fight. i think its going to be armor vs. armor, strength vs. strength, and fighting skill vs. fighting skill.
apparently colossus only has the advantage in 1 category. and that would be strength. which he probably has in spades over cyber.
can anybody tell me if wolverine has ever cut colossus with his claws. and if he did, which issue was it in?? cause without an issue number i'm just going to assume you are blowing smoke.
Cyber is supposed to one of Wolverine's mentor, but I never seen him duel with much finesse - just throw his weight around. He does have rather superior strength - he's fought with Strong Guy with only minor difficulty and got run over by a subway train.
Colossus is mentioned to be faster than he looks when he's bulked up, but he has been penetrated before (Deathbird used some form of acid to penetrate it). As to whether it can be penetrated by adamantium however, I would say it is probably more durable than what Colossus may be able to handle if acid could very well get through it, but I'm sure the steel would need to be hit upon a lot.
Although Colossus is indeed stronger, I still give the edge to Cyber, especially if he can get dig a whole big enough to use his poison claws.
Originally posted by radioboy121
Cyber is supposed to one of Wolverine's mentor, but I never seen him duel with much finesse - just throw his weight around. He does have rather superior strength - he's fought with Strong Guy with only minor difficulty and got run over by a subway train.
lots of people fight with strong guy. he has a heart condition, so he doesnt do..... much. and getting run over by a train isnt going to mean much if you have 1) organic steel covering your body 2) you have adamantium covering your body.
Originally posted by radioboy121
Colossus is mentioned to be faster than he looks when he's bulked up,
he is just as fast armored up as he is in human form. he loses no speed in this form.
Originally posted by radioboy121
but he has been penetrated before (Deathbird used some form of acid to penetrate it).
this is different though. let me spell it out for you. acid causes a chemical reaction when it "eats" through something. it doesnt mean that boom, automatically adamantium can get through it. look at glass, acid doesnt eat through it, does that make it stronger than colossus armored up form?? i highly doubt it. apples and oranges.
Originally posted by radioboy121
As to whether it can be penetrated by adamantium however, I would say it is probably more durable than what Colossus may be able to handle if acid could very well get through it, but I'm sure the steel would need to be hit upon a lot.
i dont think colossus is actually steel. it is something very similar to it. its a living metal hence the name, organic steel. something like superman, he is "the man of steel" but isnt composed of it at all. i think colossus skin is much much more durable than actual steel.
Originally posted by radioboy121
Although Colossus is indeed stronger, I still give the edge to Cyber, especially if he can get dig a whole big enough to use his poison claws.
i'm not sure that 1) he can penetrate colossus, 2) i'm not sure if the poisons are going to help considering that colossus may not have blood stream or the need to breathe in armored form. it hasnt been touched on much in the world of comics so its an "unknown"
I cannot remember, but was Masque able to affect Colossus in his more durable form? Masque did indeed alter him to have an exterior skin that looked like it, but it wasn't, but I believe he had lost his powers during that time and was in fact vulnerable. But when he Colossus did regain his powers, I cannot remember if Masque ever made contact with him (I remember Jean Grey using her serpent-like arms to grapple him).
If Masque was able to make contact, perhaps there is something vulnerable underneath that hard shell of Colossus. Who knows?
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http://www.marveldirectory.com/ultimatebios.htm
both of these sites are raly realy good, but cyber isnt there