Smith calling the Oracle 'mom'

Started by JediHDM3 pages

Yes, but he disagreed with calling her an Oracle...she didn't receive the future from divining...she just read the code...

It's a bit like the legend of Merlin, he knew the future because he remembered.

i fail to see how the two are related...

Originally posted by JediHDM
i fail to see how the two are related...

If I remember the myth of Merlin correctly if not then I'm wrong.

Merlin knew the future because he lived backwards through time, therefore he knew the future because he simply remembered it.

In the case of the Oracle, the scenarios with the integral anamolies kept on repeating themselves with each version of the matrix. Ergo it's not so much that the Oracle could see the future as more remembered it from the last time around.

Hence why the Architect although accepting that she was the mother of the matrix, did not regard her as an Oracle.

Ergo

+2 For Ergo but, -1 for not using Visa Vi when starting the next paragraph.

didnt the architect say something like

"if i am the father of the matrix then she would be the mother"

isnt that what smith meant when he called her mom?

Originally posted by xeous
+2 For Ergo but, -1 for not using Visa Vi when starting the next paragraph.

Just for you I'll do better next time.

That's y i was asking, it was just at that point in the film it was like Smith and the Oracle had some past history...no not THAT kind of past history.

Originally posted by Numo
If I remember the myth of Merlin correctly if not then I'm wrong.

Merlin knew the future because he lived backwards through time, therefore he knew the future because he simply remembered it.

In the case of the Oracle, the scenarios with the integral anamolies kept on repeating themselves with each version of the matrix. Ergo it's not so much that the Oracle could see the future as more remembered it from the last time around.

Hence why the Architect although accepting that she was the mother of the matrix, did not regard her as an Oracle.

No, no no no...We have no proof that any iteration was anything like it's previous iteration. Thus, we must assume they were completely different. The Oracle is a program designed to read the code of the Matrix, and specifically humans, in order to 'know' what a given person would choose. Thus, it seems as if she knows the future, when in reality, she is just understanding a person and their choices. she is the ultimate reader of humans, as she can know exactly what they will do at a given moment. it is not because it has happened exactly as before (and i will, if you wish, explain how it is IMPOSSIBLE for the Oracle to know exactly what is going to happen solely based on what has happened), but, rather, she can read the coding of a person's RSI and see what their decisions will be.

so, does everybody think the oracle is smith's "mother"?

i dont know thats y im 4^(|<!u9 asking

aaaaaaaaaaaahhhh, so not everybody. well that includes me. i think that the oracle is not the creator of smith but the architect. who created the anomaly? the oracle... but that's just me...

umm...huh?

i think that the oracle engineered the anomaly code and the achitect engineered the smith program.

i still dont believe that neo was an anomaly. yes im sure that some of u disagree with me, but so what? not everyone agrees with everyone else.

so, neo was... normal? 😕

no what i am saying is that neo was not some anomaly deliberately created by the machines

He wasn't designed by the machines...He's a screw up in the program. The Architect actually tried to "get rid of him".

i'm with you. if you mean they didn't design neo to be the one from the very beginning then, yes, i totally agree with you.

😮awwww...y wont anyone (but jedi) argue with me🙁