Originally posted by manjaro
not only is the Flash too fast but he, supes and J'onn can oscillate(vibrate) their bodies faster than the speed of molecules thus rendering them both invisible to the naked eye, and able to move thru solid matter.this is basically in response to someone saying that Sipdey could trap him in his webbing and flash would stretch it...inertia...blah blah blah
Originally posted by SUPERMANDAMAN
Cept when Superman an the Flash do it whatever they virbrate threw explodes but not with Jonn.
um.......actually no. flash impulse and all those other speedsters vibrate thru stuff all the time and it doenst explode. for example, when Barry West was the Flash he forgot that he promised his wife a romantic dinner so he ran home to make it and she was right there at the door. anyway he ran right past her and vibrated thru the wall and it didnt explode.
another time Impulse remove a bomb from red tornados chest by vibrating his hands thru it and taking the bomb out.
also i remember watching re-runs of old school flash cartoons and he and kid flash always vibrated thru the walls after they changed into thier costumes
however to your credit, i have heard that somewhere b-4 but i think youre referring to shadowcat when she phases thru machines they explode.
I just threw J'onn in ther cuz he rivals supes in speed i totally forgot that he can phase thru stuff naturally
Originally posted by manjaro
um.......actually no. flash impulse and all those other speedsters vibrate thru stuff all the time and it doenst explode. for example, when Barry West was the Flash he forgot that he promised his wife a romantic dinner so he ran home to make it and she was right there at the door. anyway he ran right past her and vibrated thru the wall and it didnt explode.
Yeah that's the way it usually works, but i have a comic in with wally west is learning how to use his powers from barry and they are praticeing the phasing through walls thing.
it's the most histercal thing you'll ever see. first Flash tells Wally how to do it then he phases through a wall. next Wally phases through; after he finishes he's happy then he looks back at the wall; That now has a big cookie cuttter hole in the form of a human!!! 😆
Flash would give Spiderman a 100mile per second clothesliner, the end.
Also, moving at such a high rate of speed, the Flash would not need to be particularly strong to break Spidermans web, his inertia would do all the work. You could launch a paint chip at those speeds and it would blow his web apart.
Well by the time I found this thread it appears to be finished, but still, to all the Spiderman fans who like to see him beat everyone, sorry, not going to happen. It's been said many times in this thread already (like I said, I'm late) but Flash is too fast. WAYYYY too fast. Near speed of light. Imagine Spiderman, with all of his reflexes and blah blah blah standing in a dark room. Now imagine someone flicks the lights on. Would Spiderman be able to DODGE the light? Or WEB it? Or set a TRAP for it? Come on, I understand why people love Spiderman, I do too, but this isn't even a fight.
Supercharged Brain Activity: The Flash's mental abilities are also increased in speed, simple computations can be done at lightning speeds, and his ability to perform normal feats at increased speeds has allow him to build hundreds of force field generators in a matter of hours, move sandbags to cover a beach or search an entire area for something as small as a paper clip. Wally can also read as superspeed, but rarely takes advantage of his ability to learn at increased speeds, although, Jay Garrick has done so and has become a jack of all trades in several disciplines and languages.
Increased Perceptions: The Flash possesses the ability to alter his perceptions so that falling objects can appear to be standing still and can be caught and moved back to their normal position. He can do this so quickly as to have it happen invisibly to the normal human eye. The Flash's reaction time is so increased as to perform feats of speed such as removing the momentum from bullets and fast moving objects thrown at him or at others.
Speed Feats: The Flash can also perform a variety of superspeed feats such as:
He can strike a single opponent hundreds of times in a second or multiple opponents two or three times in a second.
He can disarm, or jam any number of opponents weapons before they are even aware of his movement.
Hurl small projectiles at hypersonic velocities.
Pluck speeding projectiles from the air.
The creation of wind based vortecies that can act as barriers to movement, funnels for toxic gasses, or vacuum chambers.
He can spin his arms to create directed funnels of hurricane speed air that can knock down barriers or reduce the speed of a falling object. Now with his control of inertia, he can probably reduce the speed of a falling object directly by applying the speed force in reverse, to leech momemtum from the object.
He can run across bodies of water, up the sides of buildings, and by spinning like a helicopter, he can even perform a limited kind of flight. Since his power is a quantum/molecular phenomenon, it is theoretically possible for the Flash to be able to fly just as other metas do, (and there have been other flying speedsters in the past, such as the deceased Johnny Quick,) because he can control his absolute molecular energy and direction and force it in the direction he wished to move without running.
He can also impart molecular energy to a target to increase molecular movement, as he did against the water being called Flow, boiling him into steam for a short time.
It means he can thinks and react to Spider-Man's attacks and at the same time thinks at what he wants for lunch, and many other things.
With his speed then he can go buying the lunch, eating it, and coming back to defeat Spidey before he can use some of is sarcastic lines against the Flash.He can throw so many objects through imparting molecular movement at them that Spidey would be totally busied only in dodging them, and if Flash doesn't show mercy, he can just hit Spidey with a flurry of punches at a cruising speed of 400mph leaving him totally unconscious.He doesn't need to use the Infinity Mass Punch to defeat Spidey, why use so much power against someone that can be owned with easier manners.This is a no contest battle.Flash is not Quicksilver(the old, cause actually he can run at Speeds over mach 7)or the Whizzer or Speed Demon, he's the uber alles speedster with sufficient powers to defeat Spidey with NO EFFORT.
About the webbing Flash trick, he can just vibrate phasing through the web or rending himself intangible.