Godzilla vs The Hulk

"This has gotten to the level of being pointless now."

It got ridiculous when everyone started Hulk hating and voted for Godzilla without even thinking. It's ridiculous that people think all of these Marvel Jobbers (see other threads) are a match for The Hulk.

Let's look at those who vote against him:

Draco doesn't look like he's picked up a Marvel comic in a few decades and uses the net as resource.

IRTMU spends his time searching for Anti-Hulk material on the net.

Jinzin just completely says "Hercules feat isn't comparable". When Hulk is infinitely stronger than Hercules, who did actually succeed in tipping Godzilla over.

It's pointless. But it does boost Hulk's profile, all these people hating the character must mean they are insecure of how good he really is. Which is rather sad.

"I haven't found anything that suggests the Hulk can absorb theronuclear blasts let alone radiation besides gamma. Can you give me a link or example."

Why do you continually post on a COMICS forum without actually bothering to READ the comics? Don't rely on the internet, half of what has happened in comics isn't even on here.

"Who cares if I hate the hulk? That doesnt the change the fact Godzillas force even stepping down on the hulk would crush him."

Why are you under the impression that Godzilla can stomp on Hulk before Hulk has moved? Hulk runs at a 500mph speed, max. He is extremely agile. Godzilla's big lumbering foot isn't gonna be fast enough to step on the Hulk. You are just assuming that being big is equal to the win, it is not. Godzilla got killed off by Destroyah in Godzilla Vs Destroyah, actually got whooped. Destroyah is nowhere near as fast, agile or strong as the Hulk. Plus the fact that Hulk is a small target. Godzilla's beam will not be a factor, nor will the stomping. Look at Godzilla's body, he can't look down at his feet without bending over. He is too low and too cumbersome to pose a thread. This fight would have a better chance if Hulk WAS as big as Godzilla. The fact that he isn't just means Godzilla is going down. I'm a huge fan of Godzilla, seen and own all of his movies and alot of the comics. It doesn't change the fact that Hulk is downing him. Godzilla got beat by King Kong.........KING FREAKING KONG! And you mean to tell me he can beat The Hulk? Laughable in every sense of the word.

"how does he absorb a gigantic beam thats hotter than the sun, or a super bomb shockwave that has destroyed an entire city?"

Tell me how a 100 foot tall monster, with zero speed and maneuverability, is gonna hit the Hulk with said beam. He's not, let's realise that. As for all that BS about his heart regenerating, it didn't regenerate. He got killed, I own the movie. The only reason he came back was coz TOEI CO were going bankrupt and needed money, so they brought him back years later with Godzilla 2000 in which he got whooped by a condom shaped alien.

-AC

Good show Alpha, damn good show!

I was raised on Godzilla movies, cartoons and stuff growing up. Amongst other things. I'm a huge fan and a proud fan, of Godzilla.

However the definition of a fanboy is when you vote, impossibly, for someone you either like, or against someone you hate, relentlessly.

All the liking in the world for Godzilla doesn't change the fact that in hindsight, he's rather shit. He's a poor character. Coming in here quoting all these powers he has means jack shit because all he ever does is fight the Japanese Army with his breath and tail. Two things that are redundant in this match. Having powers and using powers are two different things.

-AC

Absolutley, can you imagine how pissed Hulk would be if he felt threatened that there might be something stronger than him?

I don't think there's any incarnation of Godzilla that could actually beat Hulk (at least not to my knowledge.) I like Godzilla too, It's a loveable monster for some reason.

I always loved the concept of this big monster created by man's abuse of nature that comes up every so often to destroy shit.

The scene where you see the silhouette of him underwater destroying the submarine in Godzilla Vs King Ghidorah is legendary.

He just cannot beat the Hulk. In reality, all he will ever be is a radiation powered dinosaur. Like Hulk is a radiation powered man but to an extraordinary degree.

-AC

Yeah, I like all the stuff they show him surviving, but it doesn't compare to the stuff you can put in a comic. My favorite part of any Godzilla movie is the super cheesy explanations the military or scientist give for anything being possible. Like black hole gene splicing and who knows what.

the hell?

Okay first off I said that herc example was good for comparability but not the same,
and second, the HELL?!?!
you choose to completely dissregard everyone's arguements based on the sole assumption that we on't know anything about the hulk, it's because of crap like this that you're losing this argument, there's no reason to belittle other members of the board and their opinions just because we disagree.

IRTMU dragon gave multiple and detailed explinations for why hulk would lose this fight as have a few of the godzilla "team", and thus far all you've managed to do is convey that hulk is strong and he can run fast, however like i said his running speed and fighting speed are two completely different things,,,,and yes spiderman and wolverine can both "bound" around the Hulk, Don't beleive me look at some of spidey's fight's with the big guy, or wolvies first appearance for that matter.
But that's besides the point, you go on and on and on about how little we know about the hulk but common man Godzilla is way way way taller than 100 feat, all you have to do is watch a movie of his to figure that out, I mean his parisite insects are as big a your torso. Hulk's been hit with a gun/lazer blast that tossed him back, check out hulk 340, so whats to say Godzilla's blast wouldn't blow him off the face of the earth?
NOTHING that's what.......also Godzilla thrashed destroyah, he blew the thing up about 15 seconds after seeing him, the only reason why he even dies in that movie is because he was too powerful for his own good, and G2K is even more powerful.
You talk as if Hulk is the be all end all super being in the world, if that were true he wouldn't have got pawned by a guy like ironfist. IRONFIST for crap sakes!
Can Hulk get to a point where he's strong enough to presumably throw gozilla into the vac of space,,,,,well theoretically. Will he survive long enough in this battle to get to that point? It's highly, highly doubtful.
like I said a friggin overgrown t-rex picked hulk up and tossed him a couple of lengths of a football feild, Godzilla would thrash the hulk and that's just logical my friend, theres nothin "fanboy" about that statement. Now until you come up with a plausible way for hulk to beat the big G keep your fanboy accusations at bay, and don't freaking insult the people on here who are winning the arguement, show some class.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I always loved the concept of this big monster created by man's abuse of nature that comes up every so often to destroy shit.

The scene where you see the silhouette of him underwater destroying the submarine in Godzilla Vs King Ghidorah is legendary.

He just cannot beat the Hulk. In reality, all he will ever be is a radiation powered dinosaur. Like Hulk is a radiation powered man but to an extraordinary degree.

-AC

I agree that they are both radiation powered beings, but Godzilla is to the same degree as the Hulk. So thank you for your comparison, if you had a dinosaur fight a man, who would be most likely to win...

"you choose to completely dissregard everyone's arguements based on the sole assumption that we on't know anything about the hulk, it's because of crap like this that you're losing this argument,"

Where did I say you, Jinzin, knew nothing of the Hulk? Nowhere, that's where. IRTMU by his own admission, hates the Hulk and searches the net for anti-Hulk material, just coz he hates him. It wasn't some malicious rumour, it's from him. Draco admittedly searches the net for his info, he agrees with whoever provides the longest post or who he dislikes, purely because he has hardly any comic knowledge. All I said about you was that you brought up the Hercules thing and disregarded it. Don't make assumptions.

"IRTMU dragon gave multiple and detailed explinations for why hulk would lose this fight as have a few of the godzilla "team", and thus far all you've managed to do is convey that hulk is strong and he can run fast"

Correction, IRTMU gave multiple and detailed examples of why he believes Hulk would lose. As I did that he would win.

The very fact that he needed to go into the very cobweb ridden depths of Godzilla's history just to pull out something credible. says it all. Half of the stuff he says never ever comes into play. All Godzilla ever does is walk around and destroy Tokyo now and then. He has been battered by other monsters all of which are no stronger than Hulk, just bigger.

Hulk IS stronger and Hulk IS faster. The key fact is that he's smaller. All I'm hearing is "But Godzilla's beam". What about it? he won't be able to hit Hulk with it. Godzilla has ZERO manueverability, zero. He cannot keep up with Hulk's speed, he simply cannot. IRTMU has ALLEGEDLY seen the movies, the real ones. I own every single Godzilla appearance ever, in each and every single one of them he does not display HALF of what IRTMU suggested he is capable of. In multiple movies, they take him down with electricity, just electricity. He is weak. Just because he has strong offence against things of either equal size or equal size inanimate objects, it doesn't mean he is capable of being someone stronger and faster than he is. Not to mention small enough to get close enough to be out of sight.

"Hulk's been hit with a gun/lazer blast that tossed him back, check out hulk 340, so whats to say Godzilla's blast wouldn't blow him off the face of the earth?"

See Hulk Vs Trauma. Then return to me about what Godzilla's blast is gonna do to him.

"NOTHING that's what.......also Godzilla thrashed destroyah, he blew the thing up about 15 seconds after seeing him, the only reason why he even dies in that movie is because he was too powerful for his own good, and G2K is even more powerful."

No, if you watch, he dies due to a wound. He gets battered. Never did I suggest Godzilla didn't also do damage, but he died as a result of his battle with Destroyah, who wasn't the strongest of his foes. He dies of a wound, not because "he was too powerful for his own good." As for G2K, they hyped him up as being the biggest Godzilla at 180 foot, then the TOEI company directors decreed that it wouldn't hold water so they cut his size to 120foot. Still the biggest. So regular Godzilla was 100 foot or below. Not WELL over 100 foot as you claim him to be.

"Can Hulk get to a point where he's strong enough to presumably throw gozilla into the vac of space,,,,,well theoretically. Will he survive long enough in this battle to get to that point? It's highly, highly doubtful."

If everyone stops felching space for a second, as they have a habit of doing in this forum (it's come to be known as the fanboy back door. When in doubt, resort to space), I never said Hulk needed to do that. Hulk is NOT the be all and end all of comics, I have stated such. Stop making assumptions AGAIN. You are the one hyping up Godzilla to levels he is never ever gonna reach. Losing to Iron Fist as Hulk (which there is far more to than you made out, I know because I own the comic) and losing to Hercules as Godzilla are two different things, the latter being far worse.

"like I said a friggin overgrown t-rex picked hulk up and tossed him a couple of lengths of a football feild, Godzilla would thrash the hulk and that's just logical my friend, theres nothin "fanboy" about that statement."

Threw him the length of a football field, yeah? It did absolutely nothing to him though. Since when did mere throws become a factor in a fight? Is damage secondary now? It seems you are dusting off every single avenue to support Godzilla. I say only a few things about Hulk coz that really is all I need to say.

"Now until you come up with a plausible way for hulk to beat the big G keep your fanboy accusations at bay, and don't freaking insult the people on here who are winning the arguement, show some class."

Numbers do not equate to winning. Just because IRTMU posts a couple of page long opinions and Draco agrees, it doesn't mean that by you agreeing you have won. Well, if that makes you feel better, you run with that theory. The fact of the matter is, I know Hulk would win. Impartially I know he would. I'm a long term fan of Godzilla, for longer than I've like The Hulk if you want to be technical. The fact of the matter is, he would not win. He is essentially a slow, cumbersome animal with one destructive offensive technique which he wouldn't get to use. Unless he becomes Jackie Chan.

Lastly, I never accused you of being a fanboy. I gave a definition. One thing you might not wanna do is keep making assumptions. Just a thought.

Key Point: Page Long Opinion and Paragraph of Fact. Which one wins? The latter. I have just posted multiple paragraphs of fact against pages of opinion. If I were trying to win, I would have pages ago.

Nothing but fun. Stop getting so uptight kids, it's a forum.

-AC

lol

This thread is still going?

This is either a stalemate or Godzilla wins. I don't see any other logical outcome. Hulk is super strong but to small to gain the leverage necassary to perform a throw attack that would harm an engaged Godzilla. In order for Hulk to lift Godzilla he'd have to be able to get Godzilla off balance, and Hulk only ways a little over 1000 lbs and is around Triple H's height; he has no leverage on a creature of Godzilla's scale (and the writer's that allowed Hercules to lift and toss Godilla after he stepped on him have absolutely no sense of realism whatsoever). Hulk grabbing Godzilla by the tail is out of the question because all Godzilla would have to do is lift his tail/foot 10 or more feet off the ground and Hulk would have no ground to stand on. His punches, even if really strong, on the scale these two are on, are the equivelent of someone shooting the Hulk himself with a cannon loaded with hardballs at point blank range. Hulk's fists are blunt objects, and Godzilla's hide is very thick. Also, the wounds Hulk would make, if Hulk does manage to penetrate Godzilla's skin, will heal back quickly due to Godzilla's healing factor, and the fact the wounds would be far too small to be mortal wounds].

Unless Godzilla has some kind of omnidirectional thermonuclear heat blast attack he's not going to be able to get a fix on the Hulk to hit him directly with the nuke breath (unless of course Hulk gets so pissed he become irrational and takes the direct approach, which is actually a possibility).

All that would happen is Godzilla blasts everything in sight and Hulk keeps hopping around and around getting more pissed and more pissed. Eventually Hulk's going to reach a point of anger where he wants to take Godzilla down head on and get it over with. That's when he'd slip up and get incinerated.

(Unless it's a smart incarnation of Hulk of course. He'd just keep hopping).

it's a little hard for a little oriental man in a big lizard suit to convey any sense of speed or agility, in some of Godzilla's comic appreances/incarnations hje's far more agile than his movie counterpart.

I'm sorry if anything I said offended you, Alpha, it's just frustrating to have a debate with someone when it seems like they refuse to listen or consider your reasoning etc.. i'm sure you understand what i'm reffering to at this point.

And has for Godzilla's height, whatever stats may have been written about him and how he actually appears in the movies are completely different. i mean Godzilla isn't the size of a blue whale, he's so much bigger even you have to concede to that logic, just by looking at how Godzilla's taller than a 20 story building should be enough logic for that arguement.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
But it does boost Hulk's profile, all these people hating the character must mean they are insecure of how good he really is. Which is rather sad.

lol,,,that's what i thought too.

You people refuse to listen to my logic, as well.

Godzilla was designed to be the ultimate engine of destruction, capable of completely obliterating everything.
He has a Thermo-Nuclear super shockwave capalbe of irradicating almost every life form, including most buildings within a 30 or 40 mile radius, hell, if you want an example go watch the movie.

Can the hulk outrun that? Hmm?
Can he survive that? Hmm?

Those poor poor people 🙁

Ya, all that destruction? Thats tokyo? Who caused it?
Godzilla.

You people continue to fail to understand what Godzilla truly is.

This is an arguement between a ant and a house.

Uh... I think alot of people already agree with you. Look at the polls. The only one I can think of who doesn't is Alpha.

Alpha is a fanboy of the hulk, he continues to say I search for anti-hulk material, when really its The hulk being brought down, which is apparently, been happening more than he ever states. Hes said the hulk is more than a match for the thing, well the thing has knocked him down and out more than once from what ive found, and incapacitated him, same with collusus, Juggernaut... and almost every other brute including rhino and abom have taken Hulk down more than once, he continues to argue the hulk is the best possible...

He isnt, his power is derived from emotion, hes nothing if hes not angry.

What point does the hulk have to get mad, if godzilla is just standing there staring at him?

How is the hulk going to get to the point where he can crush godzilla, if godzilla is doing nothing to make him mad.

The hulk is pretty weak right into forming into hulk, why cant Godzilla just step on him? That maneuvar I posted above takes some energy, the super shockwave, so he couldnt do that move immediatly, but seriously, godzilla isnt just going to stand still while this little miniscule green man tries to pick him up.

The surface area of Godzilla versus The Hulk is so unbalanced its funny. The hulk has no surface tension to grip any part of Godzilla, its like trying to hold onto a car.

And thats true, how is the hulk going to lift godzilla? He has about 1/100th of his foot covered when he picks him up, its like picking up a big box with just your thumb and index finger.

The point is, hulk couldnt actually stand up and walk around with that mountain, thats not a valid point, ever, against Godzilla. Godzilla is living he will just fall down when the hulk picks him up.

Alpha, you amaze me. Godzilla is a huge monstrosity thats almost 100 times Hulks power at starting point... how could you possibly believe a ant could lift a car? Thats what your saying. Even if the ant had infinite strength, it doesnt mean he is balanced, hell, it doesnt mean he can move or do anything under such weight!

That photo of the shockwave attack seals the deal. Godzilla has an omnidirectional thermonuclear blast attack. He doesn't even have to aim. That would take out the Hulk, and I'm not talking about the radiation, I'm talking about the heat. Hulk can't survive heat equal or above that of the Sun.

Good shit Irtmu.

And im not talking about just the heat, that blast completely obliterated a huge metropolis, it goes in 3 waves, the first completely killing all life and obliterating windows, the second destroying most everything, and the third sweeping EVERYTHING away, being the most powerful. You can even see in the circle hes standing in, that was all towering buildings around him to where at that angle you couldnt even see him in the middle of the buildings... GONE, rooted, gone.

and as far as The hulk hurting godzilla with his blunt fists, thats like saying if I push down hard enough with one finger into a solid brick wall, itll damage the wall.