Originally posted by Wynndar
hahahaha....dont underestimate batman?.....this is like someone saying....uuuhhhhh, Wolverine vs. Silver Surfer....Batman is an awesome character and he is very smart, but he has child level intelligence compared to Doom...if u think batman can beat Doom, then u must say to urself, can he beat the Surfer, Mephisto, Galactus, the BEYONDER?....cuz Doom did....he is way too ruthless and evil for a DC guy like bats...not to mention he has way too much raw power and intelligence...Batman is cool, but Doom is the ultimate villain....u know people say guys like the Thing and Captain america have heart....Doom may be evil but he has more heart and determination than anyone....he had limbs blown off and was having every layer of tissue peeled off him, being disected like a lab animal, and still managed to activate a device to steal the power of the Beyonder when most poeple would have just died or passed out.
not sure of when doom beat galactus, but he did NOT beat beyonder. beyonder gave up his power to doom. it wasn't taken at all. it was revealed later that he did this.............
Originally posted by Wynndar
and if u dont know when he stole galactus's power u moust not be very familiar with the story where he stole the beyonder's...they were just a couple issues from each other.
you are right, i don't own all the issues, but i do know it was retconned later that beyonder had willingly given doom some of his power. so which issue had doom "beat" galactus? was it on his own power or borrowed power from the beyonder?
no...it was before beyonder...Doom knew that Galactus was no match for the beyonder...remember doom was with Galactus when he tried to attack the beyonder in the second issue, i think it was #2...so when Galactus turned his ship into pure energy...the "ship" is a planet sized construct....and intended to devour it and fight the beyonder....Doom sliced up the villain Klaw into thin discs and made a device out of him, that absorbed this energy and Doom devoured it before Galactus could...at this point Galactus is too weak to be an issue anymore...after Doom learns how to control his new reality warping virtually omnipotent powers, he designs a new armor that will protect him in a battle with the beyonder and eventually steal the beyonders power...he goes against the beyonder but is ripped to shreads and even loses a couple limbs...he is about to die and beyonder picks him up and starts disecting him while he is still alive...Doom still has enough determination to reach out with his one arm left and activate his armor, even though his skin and muscle are being ripped away like a frog in a science lab (proving how much of a bad ass he really is)...then he steals all of the beyonders power...however it is later revealed that a infinitismally small portion of the beyonder was living inside of Klaw later on
I would not say beyonder actually gave his powers away to Doom...it is a really complicated story...I hate having to explain it, because its hard to follow....when the secret wars started...the Beyonder knew that there was this really bad villain called Doctor Doom....and he wanted to have him in the battle...however, when the secret wars started where was doctor doom?....um nowhere to be found remember the Silver Surfer and Tyros the Terrible (Terrax) destroyed Doom when they crashed into the Earth in a ball of fire...Terrax had fused Doom's armor making him a statue, so he couldnt get out of the way...and his body was destroyed on the atomic level...so to get past this problem the Beyonder simply took a Doctor Doom from a different point in time and had him fight in the secret war....but i think he did it subconsciously so he didnt actually know about it...later on after the secret Wars, in an issue of FF, when Doom reveals that he had placed his mind into the body of some civilian in latveria...he has actually captured the FF and has them beat...he uses his knowledge of sorcery to summon the Beyonder and even assaults him...his plan is to have the Beyonder bring back his body which had been smashed to atoms...the beyonder proves to be not under Dooms control at all and kicks his ass...then the beyonder tells Reed Richards he doesnt know who this guy is...the beyonder does not identify people based on purely physical levels apparently...but he has never encountered that person in mind or spirit....Then Reed realizes that the Doom from secret wars was not from that time but from their present time and explains it to the beyonder...so the beyonder knows what he must do...he gives Doom his old body, freeing the latverian citizen, and sends Doom back in time to fight in the Secret War, and he frees the Fantastic Four
........ the end.