Death Star/The Duel

Darth Jello, is there somewhere a 'compelete' spoiler is written? If so could you point me in that direction, if not can you post what you know?

Originally posted by Red Superfly
I just came up with a pretty neat idea - what if Darth Vader enslaves an entire race of people (or Emperor does it and Vader and Tarkin oversee it and enforce it) and they make them build their Death Star. It would be an awesome way to portray Darth Vader - who was once himself a slave, along with his mother - as an empty husk of the man he once was, to show just how bad he has become and how bitter and twisted ("Twisted and evil"😉 he is at his own misfortune.

Absolutely fascinating concept! You certainly have a unique way of looking at the story. This would in fact be an awesome twist in the plot. If there is any fan idea that I would like to see put into film, then this has to be one of them.

In the words of superstupid itself : "Tres cool!"

Originally posted by Ushgarak
So you think they tugged a moon, around ANOTHER moon, and built it there out of that first moon?

No, of course they did not tug a moon. Rather to create all the material needed to construct the Death Star, the Empire would have ravished enormous amounts of raw materials from one or more terrestial bodies. It makes sense that rather then making tiny little machine shops creating only small pieces, the Empire would establish huge foundries the size of small towns to create the materials needed. How else could they build it?

Originally posted by cornponious
Absolutely fascinating concept! You certainly have a unique way of looking at the story. This would in fact be an awesome twist in the plot. If there is any fan idea that I would like to see put into film, then this has to be one of them.

In the words of superstupid itself : [B]"Tres cool!" [/B]

Cheers!

But alas, I think things will be a lot different. It certainly has a Star Wars feel to it and I could imagine it being in the final movie, so I posted it.

I thought logically about the idea, and tried to think about the storytelling point-of-view and how Episode 3 would compliment the previous two Episodes. I think doing this would somehow redeem Episode 1, because so far that film has been totally disjointed next to the others, and by having this plot point would somehow "rejuvinate" Episode 1 as a truly important piece of the series.

I'd love to see it happen, and Lucas is into all this mythological and fate mumbo-jumbo. I wonder if he was thinking of something along these lines? It would totally make Anakins origin make more sense and interesting, due to the fate-strong world that is Star Wars.

But, somehow, I can't see it happening.

For the sake continuity it would make sense that we would see the Death Star being constructed in Episode III.

We see the plans in Episode II
We see the finished product in Episode IV

All that's missing is the construction

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Originally posted by schill142
For the sake continuity it would make sense that we would see the Death Star being constructed in Episode III.

We see the plans in Episode II
We see the finished product in Episode IV

All that's missing is the construction

You are 100% correct. We must see the Death Star after we see the plans for it in Episode II. According to what I've heard, the Death Star will appear in Episode 3 toward the very end. 🙂

Originally posted by Ushgarak

Sorry, why do you think that this ridiculously complex and pointless idea is even vaguely worth coming up with?

I've looked around and the general concensus is that we will see the Death Star in some stage of Development in Episode III. Perhaps this ridiculouly complex theory is not so pointless.

i think we see the death star getting constructed until the end where its completed

Originally posted by schill142
No, of course they did not tug a moon. Rather to create all the material needed to construct the Death Star, the Empire would have ravished enormous amounts of raw materials from one or more terrestial bodies. It makes sense that rather then making tiny little machine shops creating only small pieces, the Empire would establish huge foundries the size of small towns to create the materials needed. How else could they build it?

Well, now you are just changing your mind about what you said.

And no, it is still ridiculous, whether we see it in construction (which would raise odd questions in of itself) in III or not.

Perhaps people misunderstood my original post or I did not make myself clear enough. Just to reiterate my point:

I do not think the Death Star was once a moon or planet.

I do think the process of making the Death Star would have transformed the planet in question into more of foundry or construction site that would have been able to produce massively large portions of the DS.

I haven't watched AOTC in a while, so I could be wrong, but I seem to recall Lucas saying in the extras on the DVD that the Empire contracts out the Geonosians to build the Death Star.

Maybe that's the reason why the Death Star gets built so quickly is because the Empire uses the droid nation to help build it all.

I still think using enslaved alien races would be awesome.

And this is Star Wars. The Death Star being built is realistic in Star Wars because Star Wars is rediculous.

how could the death star be built over 20 years without anyone knowing about it? and how could the second one which was even bigger be built that quickly if the first one took 20 years. again my source is Shadow of the sith. they collect stuff from all over the net, including most of the big star wars sites and filter the crap through a message board and come up with very accurate plot summaries. In fact, I believe Suttle primarily ripped off their Ep II Summary and said it was from Lucas himself. the only difference between that summary and the finished movie were some deleted scenes and Sifo-dias replacing sido-dias. so my sources are not that far off. check them out at www.thetrukstop.com/starwars

-Darth Jello,

I've heard two explanations for your observation, the first is that they started the second Death Star earlier then we all thought. I don't agree with that theory, but who knows for sure. The second observation relates itself to basic manufacturing, once you make your test run or your prototype, all the other models are that much easier to make. Your first model would take so long, simply because you have to deal with design flaws, errors, bugs, and you must first make the machines that can produce the one of a kind products.

maybe they were building the 2nd death star while the first 1 was operational (hence at the beggining of ep 4: Where are the plans to the death star) so we can safley assume he meant the second because the 1st was already operational

Originally posted by Darth Jello
how could the death star be built over 20 years without anyone knowing about it? and how could the second one which was even bigger be built that quickly if the first one took 20 years. again my source is Shadow of the sith. they collect stuff from all over the net, including most of the big star wars sites and filter the crap through a message board and come up with very accurate plot summaries. In fact, I believe Suttle primarily ripped off their Ep II Summary and said it was from Lucas himself. the only difference between that summary and the finished movie were some deleted scenes and Sifo-dias replacing sido-dias. so my sources are not that far off. check them out at www.thetrukstop.com/starwars

I love that web site. Very detailed, and enjoyable. Probably one of the best Star Wars sites around. That site is where I first discovered the leaked Episode 3 footage.

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in any case, Mustafar seems to be a very very unstable planet.

Well that does bring up something. I theorize that they painstakingly built it piece by piece. They would probably have to use a platform or something to keep gravity in check. Also if the Death Star is started on Episode III and it was completed in Ep IV (about 20 years later) then how did the Empire get another one constructed so quickly?

Originally posted by Gandalf Of Lore
Well that does bring up something. I theorize that they painstakingly built it piece by piece. They would probably have to use a platform or something to keep gravity in check. Also if the Death Star is started on Episode III and it was completed in Ep IV (about 20 years later) then how did the Empire get another one constructed so quickly?

Maybe they were secretly working on another one long before the first 1 was destroyed. This probably isn't true at all, just a wild theory.

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