Originally posted by jrodslam
I dont call it what i want. I call it what it is. You say those punches would easily knock DD out or kill him, yet people like Hulk, Spiderman(numerous amount of times) and Namor(more than once) have struggled to knock him out.
Yeah, that's called stupid writing. Nobody even if they rolled with their punches with human durability would survive those kinds of punches. You've also got to realize that Spider-man ALWAYS pulls his punches anyway. 😉
Originally posted by batdude123
Yeah, that's called stupid writing. Nobody even if they rolled with their punches with human durability would survive those kinds of punches. You've also got to realize that Spider-man ALWAYS pulls his punches anyway. 😉
Youre not making any sense for two reasons. First is because rolling with punches allows you NOT to get hit with the full power and effectiveness of the punch. Secondly Spiderman always pulls his punches to prevent killing a person who doesnt have enhanced or superhuman durability. HOWEVER he still punches with the effectiveness to knock many street thugs and other people out as we've seen countless times. He just cant do it to Daredevil, so him pulling punches has nothing to do with him not being able to knock DD out. Its not bad writing. It very consistant. Sinse Daredevil's and Spiderman's very first encounter. 😄
Originally posted by jrodslam
Youre not making any sense for two reasons. First is because rolling with punches allows you NOT to get hit with the full power and effectiveness of the punch. Secondly Spiderman always pulls his punches to prevent killing a person who doesnt have enhanced or superhuman durability. HOWEVER he still punches with the effectiveness to knock many street thugs and other people out as we've seen countless times. He just cant do it to Daredevil, so him pulling punches has nothing to do with him not being able to knock DD out. Its not bad writing. It very consistant. Sinse Daredevil's and Spiderman's very first encounter. 😄
Actually, one time Daredevil sensed Spider-man's punches, he knew it was coming but he said it came in too fast and Spider-man ended up hitting Daredevil. Spider-man effectivly hit Daredevil despite his radar sense and DD even knew it was coming! He wasn't fast enough to move out of the way. And I don't care how well you roll with a punch, even if you get hit with a fraction of a 1 trillion ton punch (Hulk) you're gonna die. 😉
I might be able to see DD roll with a punch from Namor, allowing the normal level of PIS for street level characters, but only because out of the water and not in the air Namor is not all that fast, but even getting clipped by someone of Spidey's speed should take out Matt, or at least render him extremely woozy.
Originally posted by riceroost
I might be able to see DD roll with a punch from Namor, allowing the normal level of PIS for street level characters, but only because out of the water and not in the air Namor is not all that fast, but even getting clipped by someone of Spidey's speed should take out Matt, or at least render him extremely woozy.
Originally posted by batdude123
Actually, one time Daredevil sensed Spider-man's punches, he knew it was coming but he said it came in too fast and Spider-man ended up hitting Daredevil. Spider-man effectivly hit Daredevil despite his radar sense and DD even knew it was coming! He wasn't fast enough to move out of the way. And I don't care how well you roll with a punch, even if you get hit with a fraction of a 1 trillion ton punch (Hulk) you're gonna die. 😉
Actually that one time you mention, DD sensed the punch from Spiderman coming but was unable to DODGE it. He still rolled with the punch and wasnt knocked out. Spiderman DIDNT effeciantly hit DD cause he wasnt able to knock DD out and stop him.🙄 And if you notice after that, Spiderman couldnt lay another hit on him. There was also a time where Spiderman said that Daredevil moved to fast for him to land a solid punch on him. And you dont have to care how punches are rolled with. Hulks punches against DD wasnt trillion ton punches, so your point is nulled. 😄
i didn't say that. Daredevil can see it coming. Spidey can too. But DD's got range with his clubs, and when spidey starts to dodge, he can map out the trajectory and knock Spidey out. All DD has to do his throw, Spidey dodges, but baton bounces off wall, and the inertia of Spidey's movement's puts him right in its path.
Originally posted by UltimateStryfe
i didn't say that. Daredevil can see it coming. Spidey can too. But DD's got range with his clubs, and when spidey starts to dodge, he can map out the trajectory and knock Spidey out. All DD has to do his throw, Spidey dodges, but baton bounces off wall, and the inertia of Spidey's movement's puts him right in its path.
Daredevil has always been able to sense what is going to happen next, but he's not going to be able to "predict the future" in a battle with arguably the most agile character in the business. Spider-man's spider-senses would make doubly sure of that. He might be able to do that to a common street thug, but he ain't doing that to Spider-man. 🙂