Doomsday & Lobo vs Juggernaut & Hulk

Started by YourBiggestFan4 pages

then what counts? people voting in the DC vs Marvel for popularity contest / their favorite hero? get raw info from wherever you can find then post it.

The thing is, the cartoon was designed more to entertain kids than accuracy.

just finished reading 2 Lobo vs Superman comics, 1 old and 1 new.. Old one Lobo beat him up badly. New one Superman had the upperhand but still not not close to winning, Lobo is a brawler and as strong as superman (old comic looked stronger than superman, Lobo was DRUNK and was beating sups up) Jugg cant really hurt these guys, nor can he be hurt, but he can sure be knocked out far away! only advantage jugg has is his "invulnerability" too bad it doesnt matter if he cant hurt his opponents. Are there any Jugg vs Superman comics btw? only one i saw was that cheap shot where Sups knocked him down with 1 punch which was kind of unfair, bet jugg's wasnt rdy to take the hit or else he wouldnt had fallen down. So anyways also comparing Doomsday vs any of these is kind of laughable.. Doomsday pretty much beats ALL of the AC heroes and Villans ( Superman being one of the top heroes... all of the JL... ) beaten Darkseid with ease , he took the omega beams right on his back, he got up like if it was nothing. oops kind of derailed this! sorry =/. Btw was wondering about the Hulk.. how angry can one get? there IS a limit to how angry you can get, cant say there isnt any b/c there is. When you're losing i dont think you get more angry, you start to feel Fear for your life, Hulk down! and if he is fearless, like i said there is still a limit of how angry you can get, just need to know what the limit is.

Was the old one when growing Supes knocked Lobo into orbit?

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no it was when Lobo fought at Supes home (south pole )

The only reason Lobo puts up such a good fight with Supes is because Supes usually holds back, I have a Comic where Eclipso takes over Supes body and Lobo trys to take him down and Supes goes hypersonic on him and drops lobo in a few seconds.

Originally posted by emraldguardian
The only reason Lobo puts up such a good fight with Supes is because Supes usually holds back, I have a Comic where Eclipso takes over Supes body and Lobo trys to take him down and Supes goes hypersonic on him and drops lobo in a few seconds.

I suppose if you go into who's holding back, you've got to consider that superman could probably backhand Juggernaught, shield and all to Alpha Centuri in a year (four light years off). However he doesn’t do this, so it’s not a good comparison.

Here's the maths for that statement. He once moved a small planet. The earth weighs 5,972,000,000,000,000,000,000 tons. Divided by six for the size, 50 for anything else you can think of and he has about 20,000,000,000,000,000,000 tons of lifting power in his arms

Somebody said that planet was equiped with boosters of some kind. Somewhere, I forgot where I read that.

Edit: And that's pushing, not lifting. It's his flight ability.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Somebody said that planet was equiped with boosters of some kind. Somewhere, I forgot where I read that.

Edit: And that's pushing, not lifting. It's his flight ability.

Make sure that you can quote sources before you state something unknown. But, as to your other statement i countered it. His power level is decreased fifty times. If you'd like two hundred, fine with me. His entire body pushed, and i detract 49/50s. He still has massive arm strength to use; why wouldn't he use fly speed? It's tiring, so he rarely goes into full throtle, but he has a lot more power than people think (From thirty thousand trillion tons, to five hundred trillion tons i'd say). As did a mother who lifted a car to save her child (one to one and a half tons).

Originally posted by Ytaker
But, as to your other statement i countered it. His power level is decreased fifty times. If you'd like two hundred, fine with me. His entire body pushed, and i detract 49/50s. He still has massive arm strength to use; why wouldn't he use fly speed? It's tiring, so he rarely goes into full throtle, but he has a lot more power than people think (From thirty thousand trillion tons, to five hundred trillion tons i'd say). As did a mother who lifted a car to save her child (one to one and a half tons).

I'm not saying he isn't strong, just that he wasn't benching the planet. The bumper held up but the tires and the engine did most of the work.

His body groaned at the effort as he pushed the planet. Every fibre begged for a release as the task slowly conquered him, even with the power of the ship's hyper drive helping. Suddenly he had a thought. If I fail, that planet will fall, as the deadly radiation wrecks it’s population. We, the justice guild will have fail, some will die. When a problem arises, we will not defeat it. Metropolis will fall. Lois Lane will di...

Suddenly an inane scream ripped through the atmosphere as energy diffused from every sense, drained from his powers, and filled his body. The planet slowed down inperceptively. More energy flooded his body and the planet took a slow turn as the full might of thirty years of solar power smashed against the rock. Momentarily they hit each other. Then something snapped. The kinetic energy was pointed at the radiation storm, and they annihilated each other.

The team collected Superman soon after. He didn't even have enough power to call them. They laid him down in his bed. Even whilst he was in that weakened state, even not knowing how they had defeated nature they were still amazed at this man of steel, who had such a look of innocent joy on his face, such contentment with a life as hurtful as his.

He is stronger than most beings. Maybe not this strong, but I'd say that he is certainly one of the top three strongest. At his limits, maybe the strongest.

Originally posted by YourBiggestFan
When you're losing i dont think you get more angry, you start to feel Fear for your life, Hulk down! and if he is fearless, like i said there is still a limit of how angry you can get, just need to know what the limit is.

Hulk's strength is proportionate to his adrenaline production. Anger is used most, because it is the most common time where adrenaline is produced. Do you know when the MOST adrenaline is produced? When you are scared. It happens less often, but it's more potent. Hulk getting scared for his life is actually a bad thing for almost anyone he is fighting.

Yup, I'd say he could remove Doomsday from the universe if he was scared enough. Smash up his atoms. In fact, he managed a 1.5 hundred billion ton mountain. In about three seconds. Sounds like a good Braniac experiment- Find out how a human compares to THE HULK!

Nope. Hulk can't do a thing to Doomsday, no matter how strong he got. When Doomsday dies, he returns to life immune to what killed him. Seeing as Superman has already pummeled Doomsday to death using brute force, he can't die that way again, and brute force is all Hulk has.

We are talking about normal Savage Hulk right? Professor Hulk is a very different story.

By the way, how does that work? Is he like the meteor guy in A Wayne triology (not actual title, can't remember actual title) who regenerates from wounds very fast? Like once he dived off a ship, hit the earth and regrew a body for his skeleton. Or does he appear in a machine with his update. How does he ressurect himself?

I can't remember how Doomsday ressurects himself, and I don't feel like searching through all of my comic books to find the answer. I just know that he does, and becomes immune to the way he died. This just means that after about 200 times of dying, Doomsday would be 100% invincible.

ya but, even if he cant die, he can loose, i didnt read any where that said this was to the death, and he can die to, hel just come back later

The way Doomsday was created, his body naturally evolves to whatever hurts him or kills him.